How Is Regulation Hurting Job Growth?
Rep. Sensenbrenner wants to hear from employers shackled by federal mandates.
The old adage by Benjamin Franklin goes, “The only thing certain in life is death and taxes.” Today, we could update that maxim to include death, taxes, and regulations.
In an unprecedented fashion, there has been a landslide of regulations coming out of Washington that threaten our already fragile economy.
According to the President’s own Office of Management and Budget, since fiscal year 2009, 162 major rules have been issued, many of these rules having an impact of $100 million or more annually on the economy. Along with the other challenges businesses face today, Washington’s red tape kills job growth and slows our recovery.
For instance, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) issued a mammoth 276-page book of rules to regulate boilers, called “Boiler MACT.” Hundreds of thousands of churches, factories, restaurants, schools and even farms across the country who use boilers to generate electricity would be required to conduct emissions testing and comply with regulations.
A study by the Council of Industrial Boiler Owners on the draft Boiler MACT rules found that for every $1 billion spent on upgrade and compliance costs, 16,000 jobs will be put at risk and U.S. GDP would be reduced by as much as $1.2 billion. Thankfully, through the work of several of my colleagues in the House, the EPA finally saw the light and delayed implementation of this rule.
Still, burdensome regulations, and the threat of proposed regulations like Boiler MACT, create a climate of uncertainty that chills employers from hiring or investing.
To help alleviate the burden of government red tape, House Republicans are auditing existing and pending regulations to identify and address those that hinder economic growth. In order to do that effectively, we want to hear from business owners, employers and entrepreneurs who are working to grow our private sector employment.
How has government hindered your ability to expand and hire new employees? Speak out on burdensome regulations by visiting a new page on my website to offer your perspective and experiences.
Your input will aid me in my legislative decisions and will be used to publicly educate Congress and the American people about the challenges facing U.S. job creators.
The size and scope of government has exploded. Enough is enough. The Administration’s heavy-handed approach to regulations and hostile relationship with job creators has taken a toll on our economy. Washington should be focused on reducing the barriers to success for job creators, not making it more difficult for them. I look forward to supporting common-sense, pro-growth policies that remove Washington as a roadblock to job creation and restore confidence in our private sector.
Lyle Ruble
9:15 am on Sunday, July 3, 2011
Removing regulations for business is like opening the door to the chicken coop and inviting the fox in. If regulations had been paid attention to and enforced, maybe we wouldn't have had to bail out Wall Street. We still don't have effective regulations to prevent business from raping the citizenry. Representative Sensenbrenner has earned his reputation for being a right wingnut and uber conservative.
Steve
9:17 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
Lyle, please turn off the computer. I declare regulation that only one hour per day can be used on a computer. You are destroying the air and water with the pollution caused by burning coal to power your computer. We have let you run wild way too long and the chicken coop must be secured.
I also declare regulation that you must lend 20% of your income to a sub prime consumer. It is only fair that they too can be afforded financing to pursuit the American Dream of owning a computer. We will allow them 2 hours of use/day as they are more in need than you. If they do not pay you back don't worry, the tax payers will foot the bill.
Lyle Ruble
11:03 am on Sunday, July 3, 2011
@WFB Mike...I should have expected a simpleton comment like this from you!
Jay Sykes
11:58 am on Sunday, July 3, 2011
At a minimum, I would have expected that every single regulation now in force, as well as those proposed, would have had its economic impact calculated,updated and reported on an annual basis. 'We the people'.... 'in order to form a more perfect union,' should know what regulations cost.
Randy1949
12:50 pm on Sunday, July 3, 2011
Are the particulants from "Hundreds of thousands of churches, factories, restaurants, schools and even farms" any less injurious to people's lungs than those from power plants? What's the economic impact of lung cancer and COPD?
Jeff Lawson
5:35 pm on Sunday, July 3, 2011
Lyle, you idiot, Wall Street was bailed because of idiots like you creating regulations like the Community Reinvestment Act. As a conservative, I abhor the Corporatist companies that snuggle up with legislators to obtain an unfair edge and favors. But, when idiots like you say Wall Street like its full of nothing but capitalists, it shows your narrow minded fascist vision.
By the way, the TARP funds used to bail out what you call Wall Street has been paid back.
Has the gov't been paid back for:
Fannie Mae: no
Freedie Mac: no
General Motors: no
Amtrack: no
Greyhound: no
Post Office: no
War on Poverty: no
Every single organization you liberals absolutely can't do without are nothing but a drain on the American Society.
It is Ironic that every country which exhibits the virtues you lust after are the same ones which the U.S. must continuously bailed out. Countries like East Germany, North Korea, Greece, Mexico, etc etc.
Your virtues are corrupt and don't work.
Beth Gregg
6:28 pm on Sunday, July 3, 2011
Interesting that Sensenbrenner wants to hear about this--"Your input will aid me in my legislative decisions and will be used to publicly educate Congress and the American people about the challenges facing U.S. job creators.", but he really doesn't care to hear anything when his taxpaying consitutents don't agree with him.
How about writing to him and explaining which of these "hinderances" like small business loans actually helped. The real job creators in this society are the consumers, they drive the economy. With cuts in their incomes, they will force the changes needed because businesses cannot survive without "customers". Lastly, Congressman Obvious--replacing 19th Century technology like boilers is going to have a negative effect on boilermakers. Duh. The pollution has a negative effect as well. We need to invest in the 21st and 22nd centuries. That is what will make us prosper.
CowDung
9:25 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
Businesses cannot survive if they have to replace their boilers because they cannot meet the new regulations. Certainly it will be good for the boiler companies (one of which used to have their headquarters in Milwaukee--until Doyle's policies caused them to move to Georgia), but it's going to cause everyone else to spend money that they aren't in a position to spend...
James smith
10:00 pm on Sunday, July 3, 2011
I am a 29 year old who has grown up in the heart of Wisconsin's Republican stronghold West Bend and Cedarburg. I have voted in every major election since I have turned 18 and I have always taken the time to watch debates and read about the candidates stances before deciding on who to ultimately vote for. More often than not I have gone with the Democratic candidate due to my beliefs and values matching up more along the lines of the Democratic candidates. But I have to say that regardless of how I vote, or who I support I hate what Washington and Madison have become. We elect our officials to look out for the best interest of the masses and politics have become so partisan it is frustrating. It disgusts me that no matter where I look and no matter the issue neither side is willing to compromise for the greater good of the people who elected these officials. Why does everything have to become a fight and have to be one way or the other? America became a great nation because we all pulled together and now it seems as though we are all pushing each other apart.
Mary Louise Semo-Jensen
7:38 am on Monday, July 4, 2011
I echo the comments of James smith 100%. I swear allegiance to no political party; try to stay informed and am sick of the lies politicians pander to us. Campaigning they say one thing; once in office decisions are made based upon who the major contributors were to campaigns. Get rid of the lobbyists, the advertising agencies that take facts and construe them never having to face retractions for their misstatements. Have you ever heard of an advertising agency going belly up. They are glad to spend the dollars from corporate contributors.
Mary Louise Semo-Jensen
7:39 am on Monday, July 4, 2011
Promote a product and a person in a positive manner telling us what they have done to deserve our backing. End the lies. Passing more laws to create positions without enforcing the current ones become fodder for attorneys or is it just another way to keep attorneys employed while industry and big business take manufacturing jobs overseas for slave labor. We have come way too far from the founding principles of our nation and allowed politicians to create a debauchery. This segment of the population has the best of benefits, lifetime guarantees, pensions and step on the backs of the constituents to elevate themselves, their cronies and the big money contributors for their personal gratification. What can be done to create more jobs in the USA?
Mary Louise Semo-Jensen
7:40 am on Monday, July 4, 2011
It is simple. Make those who take their business across the ocean accountable; tax their wares coming into the United States ports, bring the jobs back here employing those whose benefits have expired and live from day to day. Make the United States a country that is proud of it's middle class and give those same people the opportunities that our parents, grandparents and great grandparents had to earn a decent day's wage for an honest effort. Put an earned dollar back in their pockets so they can afford to buy the products made here, with pride. Common sense cannot be legislated; more rules just give opportunities to crafty persons to find loopholes. I took a look at the page Representative Sensenbrenner created and find nowhere where a common citizen can leave a comment. Does he really care about you and I?
blurondo
7:56 am on Monday, July 4, 2011
Doing away with or easing safety, health and well-being rules will harm the local residents and environment. The owners of the businesses don't care about those things. They have no vested interest in them. Their motivation is to make money for themselves at the least possible expense. They do not use nor understand the words "common good".
John J. O'Neill Sr.
8:10 am on Monday, July 4, 2011
Shut up, "Tex". You inherited a fortune and never worked a day in your life! Thanks for the Wall Street crisis and befouled Gulf of Mexico!
Jenny Heyden
8:16 am on Monday, July 4, 2011
I need drinking water to live. And I expect that the government will not allow toxic things to reach me or my children. I expect that if they know it is bad for the people, they will not allow it, or they will restrict it, or they will tax it. I invest in my government to have the peoples' best interests in mind and use the leverage they have to protect humans. Not lie about fictitious "jobs" at the cost of the humans they are employed to protect.
Plow Boy
9:13 am on Monday, July 4, 2011
Corporations are not people! They are here to make money at everyone's else expence. They can rape the land and the goverment will clean it up. What do we need regulations for? Look what the Fox River would be like if the papermills would not have regulations they would clean them up on their own. May be the we could start the minning up north without regulations look at all the jobs it will create at my expence. Lets be proactive not reactive. Wake up People.
Steve
9:10 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
No one is saying remove all regulations. What we are realizing is that hyper over regulation is hurting everyone and it is time to stand up. We can mine safely for iron ore if you believe it or not. Saying no to everything industrial yet being a consumer of products is hypercritical. Saying no to safe mining just because you think it will hurt the water or air is being uneducated.
Eastside Gal
9:54 am on Monday, July 4, 2011
It appears that one person's "must-have regulation" is another person's "too-much-government-control regulation." I believe local, state & federal governments add numerous unneeded (and oft, except by a few, unwanted) regulations. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. "Government" is supposed to be of, by & for the people. Those who want less government regulation (read, "control") must step up & be heard by candidates for office & those already in elected office.
michael aita
10:08 am on Monday, July 4, 2011
government regulates because the world is way to complicated for the individual or the market to handle everything. an even handed approach, not sensenbrenner's, is to promote needed regulations while eliminating uneeded ones. most regulations came about because some one screwed the public when there was no regulation. regulations ensure the safety of our food,ensure the safety and effectiveness of the medicines we take, keep airplanes from falling out of the sky and so on. can anyone really believe banks got in trouble because to too much regulation or was it because the traded unregulated financial instruments? airlines are now maintaining their aircraft overseas. do we need more inspections of less? we are importing more food? how does sensenbrenner plan to ensure it is safe? his reactionary mantras are bad for us
Michele Braze
11:00 am on Monday, July 4, 2011
Anybody want to guess what the "F" in F.James Sensennbrenner stands for?
Arnie Vaske
11:07 am on Monday, July 4, 2011
I agree with James Smith that our State and country are badly polarized. This is unfortunate, as neither side has a monopoly on good ideas - we need to work together in order to have a healthy society.
In times of distress, people look for answers. But the situation is often ambiguous. So, there is a natural tendency for people to latch on to one of the more convenient answers, and wall off any contrary evidence (see Erich Hoffer's book, "The True Believer.") But this quest for simplicity wreaks much havoc on our society, creating out-groups, dogma, and an "all or nothing" mentality.
jbw
4:36 pm on Monday, July 4, 2011
All this talk of "job creators" is badly misconceived. Speaking for my company and our business partners, if not for business in general, our highest priority as employers is enriching ourselves. That's why we started for-profit businesses in the first place. If our goal was to give other people something to do, we would form non-profits.
I prefer taking on a high workload directly; but if the only way my business could continue meeting customer needs and growing profits was by hiring, then we would create new jobs that pay what the market will bear. "Creating high paying jobs" by sheer power of will is a ridiculous notion - job creation is a side-effect of growth in labor-intensive businesses.
jbw
4:49 pm on Monday, July 4, 2011
As businesses we do care about the "common good" and have vested interest in the well-being of our communities; but we have to balance the value of our own limited lifespans with what we want to achieve for ourselves and others and decide what regulatory actions we can reasonably afford. Sorry, but there is no easy answer, and as usual the best path is moderate and independent thought on a case-by-case basis.
Chuck
8:52 pm on Monday, July 4, 2011
I think we are all aware that Sensenbrenner is not interestded in our opinionns. Nor are any other politicians. I agree as well with James Smith. I wonder when it happened, when they politicians decided we dont matter. When did they decide they had all the answers. But answers only benefit them and those who have thrown enough $$$$. at them. The question is, how do we change it?
Jeff Lawson
9:12 pm on Monday, July 4, 2011
If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? — Frédéric Bastiat, 1850, France
Jeff Lawson
9:21 pm on Monday, July 4, 2011
"Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others?" THOMAS JEFFERSON
Daniel S.
11:48 pm on Monday, July 4, 2011
Sadly, the two parties are really not much different; they just have different friends they want to support with "our" tax dollars and varying ways of doing so. Most all of them are out of touch with the bulk of the people in the nation and world. They just happen to be in charge of us all and work closely with those who control most of the money flow. They use us to bankroll their ideas and to buy their friends.
Vicki Bennett
9:52 am on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
It's clear that Sennebrenner is not representing me. We only have him as our Senator because the Republicans redistricted and put him where he is. He represents us the way a defense lawyer represents his "guilty" client. He should be asking his "voters" how the Republican de-regulations have hurt them. Jobs are being sent off shore or to Mexico. Down-sizing is the norm. These practices became rampid during the Bush administration with a majority Republican Congress. Now he is acting as if it is this administrations fault. His memory is very short (or affected by frequent use of alcohol).
CowDung
9:31 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
Did we used to have regulations that prevented jobs from being sent offshore or to Mexico?
Offshoring has been going on long before Bush came in to office...
Lyle Ruble
9:49 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
@CowDung...Serious offshoring began in the late 1960s. GE was one of the leaders in offshoring moving manufacturing to Puerto Rico. Import duties prevented wide scale offshoring, but with free trade agreements, duties began to disappear. The Reagan years was a massive change to offshoring.
CowDung
10:55 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
So we are in agreement that this isn't all Bush's fault...
We've talked about this offshoring thing before. It's kind of a double edged sword--it can help American businesses stay competitive and help other nations develop economically, but it obviously removes some immediate jobs from our economy.
I'd like to think that we'd get those jobs back in the long term by gaining trading partners in the newly developed nations, or 'evolving' those jobs from unskilled manufacturing to some type of specialized semi-skilled or even high skill manufacturing.
Vicki Bennett
9:57 am on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
I thought that name calling was supposed to be inappropriate for this site. You can make your point without it.
Jay Sykes
10:33 am on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
I think some people are confusing being "represented" with having everything their way. I didn't vote for Sensenbrenner, I agree with almost nothing the guy has done or proposes to do, yet he's my Representative and as such he "represents" me in as much as the majority of people who voted in the last election put him in office. I'm not certain where this idea came from that if you can't personally speak to an elected official on your own schedule, in the manner you see fit (or even at all) or if they don't support what you believe in, they don't "represent" you and, as such, because you view your interests as paramount to those of anybody else (i.e., the majority that voted the person you don't feel "represents" you into office), you should get your way and out they must go. Now, I've got an idea where that came from, but it's just a theory....
@Vicki Bennett... I took this comment, that Bob McBride III posted today on a Sandy Pasch Opinion piece, and put in different names. I don't think I could have said it better.
CowDung
10:50 am on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Vicki:
Imagine if you will that there were some sort of 'regulation' that didn't permit companies to send jobs overseas. What would happen to all the companies that have to compete with foreign companies producing similar products, but at much lower labor costs?
Yes, regulations can prevent those jobs from being sent to Mexico or overseas, but if the company goes out of business, those jobs (and more) will still disappear.
Jeff Lawson
11:07 am on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
If individuals are unable to govern themselves, then how can we expect those same people to govern others? Nobody on this forum ever attempts to answer that very basic question.
Sammy
3:35 pm on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
As a Business owner, That is now down 4 employees and down to 15% of our 2008 Gross. We wont hire until Obama and the Democrats are gone. Small businesses needed to Consolidate their debt in Jan. 2009. But Obama strong armed the banks and they froze up any lending to small businesses. He tried to control all the small banks, So they gave the money back. Then He took all the Stimulous money and gave it to the public unions and his "favorite" business friends. So there you have it. Get rid of them and we will hire 1.5 million in the 1st week.
Sammy
3:46 pm on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Business owners will survive on their own. We're a special breed. We love to give Others Prosperity. but for now We'll only Use our kids or relatives for help. None of us get unemployment. None of us got any stimulous checks. None of us got a debt Consolidation. We were thrown to the dogs. and then demonized and spit on by Obama and the dems on top of that. So, get rid of the democrats and their crime spree and we'll hire immediately. I will hire back 3 workers Immediately. It's the "Workers" move. Get them out now, Please.
Keith Schmitz
12:31 am on Wednesday, July 6, 2011
Wow. Cheese AND whine.
Jeff Lawson
3:46 pm on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
This country was founded on the belief in the power of individual freedom, NOT in the power of elite government to dictate.
Jeff Lawson
3:51 pm on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Creating a population of entitled dependents does not allow people to become self reliant, but instead lowers our country to the standard of living and depravity as the rest of the world.
Sammy
4:06 pm on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Vicci, You are obviously not a Business owner. Every Business owner I deal with Had awesome years During the Bush administration. In 03 through 06, we had record years. in 07 and 08 our Gross income started to decline. but only by around 10%. FYI, the Democrats controlled the Congress in 07 and 08. In 2009, Our business laid off all workers and our Gross went down 75%. This year 2011, we'll be lucky to get 15% of the work we got during Bush. Democrats, their Spending and Regulations have Destroyed the small Business. Once again, Get the Dems out and We'll hire 1.5 million in the first week.
Lyle Ruble
10:57 am on Wednesday, July 6, 2011
@Sammy...Not only do you misrepresent the effect of regulations on small business; you puff figures way out of proportion. I am a former small business owner, many small businesses, now retired. If your revenues dropped as much as you claim, you're out of business and it has nothing to do with Obama or regulations, you're a poor business manager. Unless you over leveraged the credit markets should have restricted you from growing, not the significant business losses you claim. Quit claiming to be something you are not. Your projection of 1.5 million jobs overnight is just plain false.
CowDung
4:19 pm on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
You'll hire 1.5 million in the first week that the Dems are out? You must be one big business owner...
Vicki Bennett
4:22 pm on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Although I'm not a business owner, it is clear to this "novice" that the Bush years were like a paper tiger that was not built on a lasting foundation. Thus, we had the crash of our financial institutions and various other foundations of our economy due to deregulation. This didn't just happen when Obama took over, it was "happening" when he took office. That is why some of his first acts were the bail outs. It's interesting how some people like to distort events. My comments were meant to address the fact that I don't feel represented by Sensebrenner. I've been to events where he spoke and found that he was not responsive nor interested in questions that didn't support his bottom line or his special interest groups. There's no way you can defend that.
CowDung
4:44 pm on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Isn't that how most every politician is? If you agree with their position, they are responsive and interested. If you disagree, they are unresponsive and uninterested...
Vicki Bennett
4:50 pm on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Jay Sykes, is Sensebrenner even you representative?? Are you from the North Shore of Milwaukee??
Randy1949
10:47 am on Wednesday, July 6, 2011
@Vicki -- I'm out in Waukesha County, and Sensenbrenner is my Representative. I'm part of the old Ninth Congressional (I'm not sure what they call it since redistricting) that ran from the North Shore out to Chenequa, carefully bypassing the City of Waukesha. Hence the conservative slant to the politics.
Jay Sykes
5:41 pm on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
@Vicki Bennett... Yes, I am a N/S resident. I lived here when Sensenbrenner was first elected as a US Representative, before Tom Barrett represented the N/S; were were part of the 9th Congressional District. Other than my matriculating years, spent collecting various calligraphy on sheepskin, I've lived in the N/S.
Sammy
10:18 pm on Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Vicci, The Crash of our Financial institutions, Happened because of Frank and Dodd in 07 and 08. They made sure , That even if someone Didn't have a job or SS # They were Qualifyed to buy a house or that bank would be fined by Regulations, in the Affordable housing act scam. . And Sued by Their Acorn Laywer, Obama.There was so much money laundering , Even Bairnes stole 90 million from fannie mae. In Bushes last two months, He saw the damage done by the Affordable housing act scam and he tried to save these large banks . He signed over a 420 billion $ check to Obama. Which ended up being just a down payment to the Democrat looting that followed. Get the Dems out and we will hire again....
Keith Schmitz
12:38 am on Wednesday, July 6, 2011
Why, just because you get a tax break. No business hires anyone unless there customers.
Randy1949
11:06 am on Wednesday, July 6, 2011
I'm afraid you're off base, Sammy. Let me quote from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_Mae#The_mortgage_crisis_from_late_2007
"The growth of private-label securitization and lack of regulation in this part of the market resulted in the oversupply of underpriced housing finance[33] that led, in 2006, to an increasing number of borrowers, often with poor credit, who were unable to pay their mortgages - particularly with adjustable rate mortgages (ARM), caused a precipitous increase in home foreclosures. As a result, home prices declined as increasing foreclosures added to the already large inventory of homes and stricter lending standards made it more and more difficult for borrowers to get mortgages."
You're blaming the wrong people for the collapse of the housing market. Someone was making money off adjustable rate mortgages, but it wasn't Fannie Mae.
Lyle Ruble
9:22 am on Wednesday, July 6, 2011
@Jeff Lawson...You continually cite 18th and 19th century sources to support your positions. It is unbelievable how you take things out of context. Concerning TARP and the bailouts, it is consistent with Keynesian Economics. But the problems the nation and state have are experienced can be traced directly to a hodgepodge of regulations and inconsistent enforcement. The regulatory debacle is a direct result of both political parties. Even Adam Smith in his Wealth of Nations cautioned that business needed to be regulated and bear the social costs that capitalism caused. Your insistence on it's the liberals fault is not only misdirecting but represents an out and out falsehood.
Terry Burkett
5:15 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
I think this age old conservative cry that "regulation" hurts the economic development. When in truth the only economies that are hurt by regulations are the legislators themselves who benefit from contributions from these huge lobbyist groups. While it is important to not have our systems bogged down to a halt by over-regulation, it is important to keep in mind many of the disasters that we've had to endure when we let industries from manufacturing to financial "police" themselves. Many regulations are in place to protect the ordinary citizen from risk both bodily and otherwise. We are in this economic mess right now due to eased regulations on Wall Street. Washington turned its back while Wall Street played monopoly with our economy and preyed on the life savings of our citizens. Then when the bubble burst tax payers bailed them out. When Wall Street recovered, they then relied on sycophants like Jim Sensenbrenner to blare the trumpets of eased regulations to get the wheel turning again.
Terry Burkett
5:22 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
@Sammy- I'm still trying to figure out how Dems and their spending killed small business? You don't think there are small business owners that are Democrats? Are these business owners (myself being one of them) don't have clue? Maybe I understand that if MORE people have jobs and access to wealth, that MORE people will have the means to spend money with my small business? Interesting lesson in economics. I agree Jim S doesn't relate to me at all. I've attended events where he was and felt as if he wasn't speaking to me at all. It seems if you're a conservative you're willing to destroy our way of life to benefit yourself and your ideals
Terry Burkett
7:10 am on Friday, August 26, 2011
How about "no bid" contracts to companies like Haliburton? I'm sure those contracts outweigh anything set aside to minority businesses. In many cases those set asides are simply a way to make sure that minority businesses get aNY jobs and those set asides are slight.
CowDung
7:35 am on Friday, August 26, 2011
Consider why they are giving out these no bid contracts--is Halliburton the only company they can trust to get the job done?
I wouldn't say that the minority set asides are slight. Isn't it pretty common to have 10% of a project allocated for minority owned businesses? That seems to be a bit more than 'slight'...
Lyle Ruble
7:53 am on Friday, August 26, 2011
@CowDung...10% is slight in comparison to all projects let. Most of the time the set asides are primarily for projects for government entities or have government funds attached.
I have a long history with Halliburton and the division of KBR. KBR stands for Kellogg, Brown and Root. Kellogg along with Brown and Root were failed design and build contractors. Both firms had a reputation of poor work and cost overruns. After Dick Cheney left the government as Defense Secretary in 1993 and joined Halliburton, the firm went into business of providing the government with service contracts after the draw down from the end of the Cold War. I don't have independent evidence to accuse Cheney of corruption, but it doesn't take a huge leap of faith to draw a connection. KBR/Halliburton have shown that they have overcharged the federal government billions of dollars. It's not that there aren't others in the market who could provide the same services as KBR, but the process has been "wired" in their favor since they were contracted to write the service specification and requirements for bid; thus; creating a closed specification. Eric Prince's Black Water now known as Xe has been in the same no bid favored status. Those connections will have to wait for another time.
Bob McBride
8:06 am on Friday, August 26, 2011
I guess no one really has the heart to take on the no-bids, including the current president, who renewed Xe's no-bid with a swipe of his pen when the occasion arose.
As far as writing specs goes, that happens all the time. I had a friend who's father was literally written into the "specs" for some hi-tech composite filament wound missile casings. You won the bid, you employed him for the term of the contract at a very healthy salary.
Lyle Ruble
8:26 am on Friday, August 26, 2011
@Bob McBride II...Damn; right again. You and I have to know some the same people out there. The golden spec. is the closed spec. Every sales engineer I know attempts to achieve that status. I think Xe is a threat to our national security. Not only are they in the "mercenary" business, but also the arms development business. I would strongly support an depth investigation into them; of course there might be a lot of very high placed politicians "outed".
Lyle Ruble
8:08 am on Friday, August 26, 2011
@Bob McBride II...You make it hard to argue with. You are so right about the regulations creating opportunities for abuse. I too have had the experience of working for companies that set up minority owned fronts including naming women as presidents to gain the coveted minority owned status. Businesses, from large to small, have used this scam for decades. True minority owned businesses have difficulty in participating because of capitalization problems. Therefore they end up partnering with larger firms to be able to take on the contracts, but pay huge fees to do so. Regulation reforms should find ways to close these loopholes.
Steve
8:31 am on Friday, August 26, 2011
Or get rid of them all together and keep the market free to the best company. To take a line from your play book a smart business will learn to survive. ie, the business that names it's wife as the president to play into the game and get the work. If a true minority company can not get the work, well then they suck at being a business. It's not because they are not the same skin color and are being picked on, they truly are not right for the said contract. More regulation, more games, more government needed to watch the games.
"Regulations don't kill the economy but set conditions on production that must be met for the greater good. Smart business figures out how to meet the requirements and still make a profit." Lyle - 10:50am on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Lyle Ruble
9:00 am on Friday, August 26, 2011
@Steve...Sadly it's not that simple. Most minority owned companies' problems rest not in their capabilities to complete the contract, but obtaining the capital. Commercial banks have been notorious for not lending to minority owned businesses or if they do lend it's at rates that can't be easily affordable. This is an artificial obstacle. In a perfect world racism wouldn't be an issue. However, it is and means have been implemented to overcome them. That allows unethical businesses an opportunity to abuse the system.
Steve
11:47 am on Friday, August 26, 2011
Ok, well here is what you meant then.
"Regulations don't kill the economy but set conditions on production that must be met for the greater good. Smart (white) business figures out how to meet the requirements and still make a profit." Lyle - 10:50am on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
More use of race by the democrat talking machine to gain further power, control, and pass more regulation.
235301
10:15 am on Friday, August 26, 2011
Regulations have to be looked at on a case by case basis and how they actually protect the public and also balanced against how it will harm business. And some of these regulations/proposed regulations are based on junk science. You need not look any further than carbon credits to see the lunacy of some of these regulations/proposed regulations. Or look at Europe's RoHS. Many of the regulated substances that aren't allowed in electronics under RoHS a) cannot be measured accurately and b) there is no definitive proof they are harmful. And now we have the removal of lead from solder in electronics. That sounds good, right? Lead is harmful to the human body. Now the bad news: the lead free solder that replaced the leaded solder has the nasty tendency to migrate over time, basically shorting out components on circuit boards. Your nice new LCD TV in the family room, think it will last 10 yrs? After all I have a 20 yr old TV in the basement, this new one should be at least as reliable, right? Nope....that lead free solder will eventually migrate and fry something in that new TV of yours. Yay, planned obsolescence delivered by your government regulators. Wonder why electronics where human life is on the line(space, military) is exempt from the ban on lead solder? There you go. Anyone for lead free solder in their antilock brake controls? How about your air bag controls?