Walker Recall News Highlights from Jan. 17
A presentation of the major news points from Tuesday, Jan. 17, when organizers turned in nearly 2 million total signatures to recall Republican state legislators, including Gov. Scott Walker.
Today, organizers of the effort to recall Gov. Scott Walker from office will present hundreds of thousands of signatures to the state Government Accountability Board.
Patch has four editors in Madison, providing up-to-the-minute coverage on recall happenings, including the turning in of signatures to recall Gov. Scott Walker. We will post updates here on the major news of the day.
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11:00 a.m.
Signed petitions in the effort to recall majority leader Sen. Scott Fitzgerald have arrived at the Government Accountability Board offices in Madison. Fox 6 reports the petitions contain 20,600 signatures and represent 123 percent of the signatures needed.
12:00 p.m.
@WisconsinReport posted that the press conference slated to begin after the Fitzgerald petitions were turned in was delayed by a suspicious package, and that what appeared to be a bomb-sniffing dog was brought in. Police wouldn't confirm anything, though.
Mary Spicuzza of the Wisconsin State Journal tweeted that police said purported suspicious package was a garment bag with food and other items, "no threat at at all."
1:30 p.m.
Patch editors are currently in a United Wisconsin news briefing on the signatures collected. From Caledonia Patch Local Editor Denise Lockwood, who is in Madison:
"The collection of more than one million signatures represents a crystal-clear indication of how strong the appetite is to stop the damage and turmoil that Scott Walker had brought to Wisconsin," said Ryan Lawler, board member for United Wisconsin.
"Scott Walker and his supporters tried to demean and intimidate recall circulators, but in Wisconsin winter, an army of more that 30,000 Wisconsin born-and-bred recall volunteers took to street corners, malls, places of worship, dinner tables and sidewalks to take their state back."
Collection of a million signatures represents nearly half, 46 percent, of the electorate -- and is just shy of the number of votes Walker received in 2010 election.
Patch is also hearing that the number of signatures collected to recall Racine State Sen. Van Wanggaard is 24,000, which is equal to 156 percent of the threshold.
2:30 p.m.
Wanggaard Statement on Petition Submission
Wanggaard to Continue Focus on Job Creation, Improving Education
“As union bosses have threatened for a year, today they start the do-over of their loss in the November 2010 elections. Their message is simple – put their anti-taxpayer, anti-job growth agenda back into power.
“The people of Racine and Wisconsin are tired of being divided, angry at the political fighting and frustrated with Madison. That is part of the reason I ran for the State Senate 15 months ago, and after being in the Capitol for a year, I still join them in their disappointment and frustration. That’s why I’ve worked across the aisle to pass legislation that improves the jobs climate in the state, expands educational opportunities and protects southeastern Wisconsin’s most needy individuals.
“Wisconsin must work together to grow our economy and bring jobs back. Recalls and further division do nothing to show job creators that Wisconsin has a stable business environment and continues to poison the well of politics.
“My number one job today is the same as it was last week, last month and last year – putting people back to work and growing our economy. While others have been focusing on politics and trying to overturn elections, I have been trying to grow our economy and fulfilling my campaign promises. “When the people of Racine look to our accomplishments, my record, and the facts instead of the rhetoric, lies and half-truths, Racinians will see a Senator they can be proud of. The budget is balanced without raising taxes. Racine’s unemployment rate is almost 2 points lower than a year ago. But it’s still too high – there is more work to be done.
“This recall election will be about choices. If the recallers are upset about paying a small portion of their healthcare and pension – less than private sector employees - they should say which teacher, which police officer and which fire fighter they would lay off. That was the budget solution in New York and California – and in Milwaukee and Kenosha schools. If they are upset about spending cuts they should say which tax they would increase by $1 billion. That was the budget solution in Illinois and the Democrats solution in Wisconsin last session.
“The union bosses are playing into the politics of negativity and fear of the unknown. No matter their attacks, lies and name-calling, I will continue to focus on my efforts to help Wisconsin create and retain good-paying jobs and the politics of moving Wisconsin forward.”
Van Wanggaard was elected to Wisconsin’s 21stState Senate District in November of 2010. The 21stSenate District is comprised of all of Racine County with the exception of Waterford and Burlington. Visit Van Wanggaard’s campaign website atwww.voteforvan.com
3:10 p.m.
Petitions to recall Gov. Scott Walker and Sen. Van Wanggaard have been turned in at the Government Accountability Board offices in Madison. There are crowds of supporters on the streets outside, and many members of the media inside watching things unfold.
4:15 p.m.
We're waiting for news from the 3:45 p.m. press conference at the GAB.
4:30 p.m.
From Denise Konkol, one of the Patch editors in Madison:
Here's a bit from Starbucks in the shadow of the capitol where many that are part of the recall effort are gathered to take a break warm up and head back out to Monona Terrace.
Jim Brownlow of Muskego was with a group of friends, including Lenore Lee of Milwaukee, and Keith Schmitz of Shorewood.
"I felt pretty confident we'd make the 720,000 goal, but I didn't imagine we'd reach one million," Brownlow said. "I'm just really proud of what we've accomplished."
The mood is one of celebration and solidarity, if that term isn't too overused yet. Call it a brotherhood, identified by red stickers that proclaimed, "I signed" or a button on a lapel that used one of many slogans, some simple, others too 'coarse' for general consumption. Overheard often across tables and over lattes is 'I can't believe the number,' and speculation of what the year will bring.
It's been a snowy, slushy day, that gave way to bitter temps, but the crowds came dressed for the weather as well as the spirit of the event. Whether it's debatable what democracy looks like, it seems easy to spot what democrats look like today.
Bob McBride
6:30 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
S/B Latest News on, not of.
Bren
7:11 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
I heard the organizers will be dropping off 3,000 lbs. of paper to the GAB, which includes petitions to recall Scott Walker and three other legislators.
Wisconsin needs its own version of Indiana's Lunch Pail Republicans and a return to core party values!
Steve
9:02 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
That is a lot of paper. Better not tell Lena Taylor about it.
Bren
3:41 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Ok...
Steve
8:27 am on Wednesday, January 18, 2012
I have a feeling you didn't understand my comment.
Bren
11:54 am on Wednesday, January 18, 2012
Did anyone?
Thurston Howell III
7:55 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Walker's "Deer in the Headlightes" look throughout this speech. Truly the mark of a "leader". http://youtu.be/hl_gxXk0cF0
Greg
10:03 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
So you are saying that you public sector losers have been handed your butts by a deer in the headlights? Looks must be deceiving, now that is a mark of an excellent leader.
JL
8:35 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
I hate to spread rumors ,but msnbc is saying they have collected 1.5 million signatures to recall walker, he only got 1,128,941 votes in the election? So people do NOT like this man and what he has done to Wisconsin.
CowDung
8:51 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Having 1.5 million signatures does not mean that 1.5 million people actually signed...
Greg
8:58 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
I heard they only got 509,000 signatures, on vetting necessary.
the 'sha guy
9:06 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
I'll take that bet if you want to put the over/under at 1,128,941.
I'll take the under.
Carl Engelking
10:46 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
The Democratic Party spokesman Graeme Zielinski has been very adamant that any estimates or projections that come out before the final counts are released are unreliable. From a press release dated Jan. 4: "There will be no updates on the number of signatures collected for any of the recall committees until Tuesday, Jan. 17. Anyone who sees numbers before that date can rest assured that they are not viewing accurate numbers. Various blogs and other outlets have, in the course of their reporting, received erroneous information that they believe has been leaked to them."
Bob McBride
10:47 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
I heard from a very reliable source that they have 11 million signatures.
Randy1949
10:51 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
@JL -- Those who hung around to watch the segment with Mike Tate and Lena Taylor learned that the 1.5 million figure that has been rumored is not correct. I really didn't think it would be, given the number of signatures generated in the first month. Please don't repeat this figure, as it will only be used by the opposition to mock when the actual numbers are released.
The actual numbers will be enough.
Bob McBride
10:55 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Randy, it has to be true. It's from MSNBC. They don't make stuff up over there.
Then again my source tells me they have 16 million. Keith Schmitz intimated earlier that there might be as few as 252, however. So I'm going to with MSNBC. 1.5MM it is!
Randy1949
2:17 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
@Bob McBride -- "Randy, it has to be true. It's from MSNBC. They don't make stuff up over there.
Then again my source tells me they have 16 million. Keith Schmitz intimated earlier that there might be as few as 252, however. So I'm going to with MSNBC. 1.5MM it is!"
Way to blow hot air, McBride. I was watching when Mike Tate told Ed Schultz that the 1.5 million figure he'd been using wasn't correct.
And now we know what the actual figures are. I'm sure you'll find some of to be dismissive of that. Good luck challenging them all.
Bob McBride
2:31 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Well in the interest of accountability, Randy, I'd think you'd welcome a validity check. Or does accountability only concern you when it's something you don't support?
BTW, I can't verify this but I heard that they ran the software that will be used for this check on the ones collected for the Darling race and came up with about 20% that were challengeable. Assuming that's true, it indicates that this fault-proof process that the collectors have been crowing about here is perhaps not as air-tight as they'd like to think. Not that anyone with half a brain would ever have suspected it was. One collector here seemed astonished that the data they collected could actually be examined by folks from out of state - apparently the words "public record" were misunderstood by them or they were never even aware of it. Good to know you guys had such reliable, informed folks participating in the process.
So as I said, I'm sure you'll completely understand why folks don't take for granted that you have a million legitimate signatures. And you'll support the validation process in the interest of promoting the kind of fairness you seem to think is currently lacking in our state government.
Randy1949
2:49 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
But of course, Bob. If you really think that over 400,000 of the million signatures are bogus, I say knock yourself out. I would, however, prefer the signatures be verified by someone without a partisan axe to grind.
You can't verify something, but you're going to repeat it anyway? Again, good for you. One million is more than the 20% margin of error over the 543,000 signatures needed.
Bob McBride
3:14 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Who knows, Randy? Considering they were gathered by people with an axe to grind, why shouldn't they be verified by people with the same degree of partiality as those you entrusted to gather them for you?
Keep in mind that this time around you guys selected not to go door to door, where you could literally check the addresses as you gathered them, but decided to park yourselves in various spots and let the folks come to you. Who knows how that might have effected the validity of the signature.
Anything's possible, Randy. Assuming your side has anywhere near the million you claim just on your say so or that of the GAB who was reluctantly forced to agree to do a more thorough check than they were originally willing to would be the height of foolishness, would it not?
And the really nice thing about this whole validation process is that the tab for it isn't costing you or the other taxpayers of the state a dime. So you're not paying for something you consider a waste of time. Unlike those on my side, who will be on the hook for our portion of as much as $20MM so you can exercise your right to be a sore loser.
Tosa is Brown Deer
8:38 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
This is a classic case of abusing the system to undermine the system.
There's nothing but malice and greed behind this inappropriate recall effort.
Unions goons, stooges and thugs.
Greg
9:03 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
This story is 4 hours old, what happened to the "providing up-to-the-minute coverage on recall happenings", I guess they did not mean minute-by-minute coverage and they did not mention which minute they would be up-to.
Mike in OC
9:33 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
I wonder who all the people are who signed this recall petition. I was never approached to sign it and know of no one who actually signed the petition. Leads me to believe there are alot of people who signed it multiple times....
CowDung
9:43 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
I was wondering the same thing. During the Darling recall, people came to my door 3 times seeking my signature. During the Walker recall, nobody has come to my door. It also seems that there are fewer homes with 'recall' signs in the yard this time around...
Randy1949
10:57 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
@Mike in OC -- Well, now you do. My spouse and I signed out in front of the Brookfield Fashion Center. My son signed at the library. He also circulated a downloaded petition which was signed by my elderly mother and several of his extended family members. That petition survived a house fire and was mailed in two weeks ago.
All of the signatures -- once and genuine. There are more of us out here than you would like to think.
Greg
11:05 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
More than I would like, period.
Bren
5:09 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
A colleague brought me the Walker and Kleefisch petitions to sign. Never has democracy been so convenient!
Bob McBride
5:13 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Today? Little late there, isn't it, Bren? And how many does that make for you now...just so we know how many to look for when we're crossing out the dupes?
Tosa is Brown Deer
10:06 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
This Wauwatosa Patch is such a scam, it's a way for Jim Price to push his political agenda of getting rid of Walker.
zach windschanz
7:02 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Nobody forget 60 days to collect the signatures but only one day will count. Try getting all of the people ghetto and dead people out of there graves come election day!
Steve
7:33 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
They actually got more than 60 days, which broke the law making all petitions null and void. There is no more recall
Craig
7:24 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
The DNC will offer rides to the polls. I have had calls in the past on election day offering me a ride to vote. (for Barrett) I think I will accept that ride next time and vote the way I want. I plan to exit the rear door so the driver can wait a while longer. :-P
Steve
7:31 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
You hungry Craig?
Craig
10:43 am on Wednesday, January 18, 2012
Steve do you mean : Maybe I can swing a pack of smokes out of them?
Zuma Bound
8:45 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Bob McBride: "I heard from a very reliable source that they have 11 million signatures."
From one of the voices inside your head, no doubt, huh, Bob?
You know what, Bobby? You're just not as funny as you clearly think you are.
Just for the record, Bob. The guy patting you on the back, and saying "Atta boy", so enthusiastically, is you.
Do us all a favor, and for once in your life, just. . .STFU.
Steve
8:32 am on Wednesday, January 18, 2012
Personal attacks are very typical by the left. They use them to try and prove their dominance on an internet forum since typing facts is impossible to get their ideas across. As their ideas are dead and have been proven a huge failure by Walker.
Bob McBride
8:51 am on Wednesday, January 18, 2012
Temper, temper, Zuma. You guys managed to scare the bejesus out of 1.9MM mental weaklings and persuade them to sign on to your mulligan. You should be celebrating your record breaking con job rather than worrying about what I think about it. This is your moment in the sun. Dial down the hate long enough to enjoy it. You've got a bit of slog ahead of you until election time. You'll need all you can muster to keep the fires burning 'til then.
morninmist
9:39 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012
No surprise that you would vile name call voters of WI. Shame on you.
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Bob McBride
8:51 am on Wednesday, January 18, 2012
Temper, temper, Zuma. You guys managed to scare the bejesus out of 1.9MM mental weaklings and persuade them to sign on to your mulligan.
morninmist
9:40 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012
You gig is up Steve.
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Steve
7:33 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
They actually got more than 60 days, which broke the law making all petitions null and void. There is no more recall
TheRealMuskegoPatch_UnBiased
11:33 pm on Sunday, March 18, 2012
Look at line number 10, who is that on the Recall Petition?? Page number 050558.
If you go to verify her name it is typed in wrong it is under Tracy sRead, check the address it is Tracy Snead.
Ian Ubel
12:03 am on Monday, March 19, 2012
So what you are saying Mr. Wolfe and your supporters, is that if your a hard working union employee, I shouldn't be able to hold office in Muskego? I've been in the trades since I was 18. I work hard and earn my pay. I don't like wasted government spending. I can't stand government handouts - to freeloader citizens or fat cat rich people either. I have voted for Republicans and Democrats. I happen to disagree with Gov. Walker and what he has attempted to do to me and my union co-workers. That has nothing to do with who I will or will not support to make sure my property taxes are spent properly. But I'll be damned if you say partisan politics have ANYTHING to do with local government. I want my streets plowed, police and fire protection (BTW Union Police Officers are protecting us) and safe, good schools, all for a reasonable cost. You don't need to belong to a political party to get that job done.
And one more thing, let me remind you that if it wasn't for many trades people like me who voted for Ronald Reagan, he would have never won!
I was actually considering voting for you. Not a chance now!
Now get off my lawn!