Or why don't you move to California, Jeff? High and progressive taxes, out-of-control state debt, anti-business climate and ridiculous regulations, a strong union domination with political influence, plus a great climate! Just like Wisconsin was under the Doyle reign, except without the great climate. Bye, bye, Jeffery.

By all means Jeff, take the no-nothing advice of Annie. Annie apparently doesn't understand that CA is the home to a mere 55 Fortune 500 companies. Annie likely prefers one of the worker's paradise states like Mississippi which has no Fortune 500s. It's a Right to Low Pay State which Walker and his Billionaire "Groupie" Diane Hendricks want for WI.

Yes CA has problems and it also has the intellectual and business horsepower to pull itself out of the TEAPublican caused Recession.

That's funny MrsPeel, I thought you guys hated successful profiteering businesses such as those represented in the Fortune 500. And yet, now you tout having in them in your backyard as being an asset!

So what is it exactly?

Further proof that Barrett and the Dems are targeting the low information, non-thinking voter!

To MrsPeel - Have you ever actually talked with small-to-medium business owners in California? Do you have any idea of the onerous regulations that business owners must endure on a daily basis in California? Are you aware of the wide variety of government inspectors who badger the owners about nonsense rules and regulations with hefty fines involved? When it is close-to-impossible to make a profit in CA, then the businesses either close or leave the state, and the people they hired are left without jobs. Simple economics, MrsPeel.

When Quad makes it mandatory that you attend the event workers have no choice.

It was not mandatory to attend the event, there were people who didn't.....the only ones that typically need to pay their activists to show up are the liberals. There are plenty of educated, hardworking people at Quad who know a good thing when they see it.....that's why there were so many people at his speech.

To James, who wrote, "Further proof that Barrett and the Dems are targeting the low information, non-thinking voter!" Sad to say, some of those "voters" you describe are teachers. Throughout this recall ordeal, I have met some union teachers who are brainwashed, angry, bitter, and are ignorant of the actual facts...one teacher even told me that "Gov. Walker forced her to retire!" And these are college-educated people who are in charge of our kids for 5 days a week. I feel bad for all of the good, honest, sincere teachers (union and non-union) who have these vocal ingrates within their profession.

It was absolutely NOT mandatory that we attend, it was allowed if we desired. Apparently many desired to do so, and why wouldn't you? Whether you support the Governor or not (I do), it's a chance to be part of a piece of Wisconsin history.

In my experience there is also the "non-mandatory but you'd better do it." phenomenon. The name John Hiller (of Scott Walker bid-rigging accusations) inspired memories from a relative who was once employed by the Hiller family, who are big names not only in local real estate but also Wisconsin Right to Life. The relative was frequently confronted with right-wing petitions. The employees, mostly young and worried about their jobs, signed.

Chris, I agree that this is a remarkable time in state history.

Annie, a teacher of my acquaintance who had intended to teach for several more years faced layoff or early retirement. The district lost a warmhearted, committed teacher who spent many extra hours tutoring, etc., caring deeply for the young minds in their charge. This was not MPS. This is a story that has taken place in nearly every school district in the state. The result is larger class sizes and younger, less experienced teachers.

A Republican acquaintance who used to work in a MPS middle school (now a post-secondary instructor) shared heartbreaking stories of the urban classroom environment. The school became a refuge from the the street and problems at home--until yanked out to babysit, etc., One morning a drunk parent burst into the classroom and screamed at their 8th grader, who cried. It's a special teacher who keeps trying! They are the ones being forced to retire.

@Bren -

As you can clearly see from the employees that have taken the time to post on this board, the event was wholly voluntary, with many attending and some abstaining. So drop the conspiracy theories on this one!

If your friend is such a dedicated teacher, and especially now that she's retired, why doesn't she still tutor? What's stopping her from continuing to teach exactly? It's certainly not Scott Walker!

See my earlier response to Anti on the "conspiracy theory" nonsense. Unless you consider Fox News a clandestine meeting place, the strategy to de-fund the Democratic Party and make Barack Obama a one-term president is right out there:

State "conspirator" Scott Fitzgerald: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/09/wisconsin-senate-leader-admits-union-busting-bill-is-about-defeating-obama/

National "conspirator" and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/10/mcconnell-stopping-obamas-re-election-still-single-most-important-goal/

I tend to consider conspiracy theories as paranoid fantasies, by and large. Strategy? Yes. Seditious? Yes. Conspiracy theory? Not so much.

Concerning the acquaintance, of course she still tutors. But badly misses the classroom. I don't know anyone who wouldn't take early retirement over losing the compensation you have contributed toward for decades. A terrible shame. If not for Scott Walker, this acquaintance would still be pursuing their vocation full-time. A born teacher.

Bren, I'm not the one throwing around conspiracy theories about ALEC and bid-rigging.

I don't know what nonsense your teacher friends are telling you, but special education is one area school districts are reluctant to cut funding.

Also, your committed teacher friend is still protected by state and federal employment laws.

Got any more great conspiracy theories you'd like to spread around?

Thank you GOD for Scott Walker!

DickHead, Then why don't you put your money where your mouth is & go to you local Police dept & tell them off, tell your garbage man f-you, tell the lady collecting tax payments to go to hell, tell the snow plow drive to drop dead. And do you also know that Walker, Kleefisch, Fitzgeralds are government employees. Yes, they are looting the system all right! Such hatred, did that come from being abused at your parochial school. Fool.

@Keith Best...Since you seem to have taken on the role of propaganda minister for Scott Walker, shouldn't you also change your name to Joseph Goebbels. The tripe that you write is nothing more than misleading and misrepresenting propaganda.

Lyle, I'm surprised you of all people are playing the "Nazi" card. Be careful, you're turning into "Brownshirt " Herr Schmitz.

Really, Lyle? Come on, you're better than this. Either you're having a rough morning being so depressed at your beloved left political future or just plain desperate and plying all your dirty tricks. Shame !

@Bewildered....I am illustrating the nature of all Keith Best's comments. He never has anything of substance but simply a regurgitation of talking points based on misrepresentations and misleading information. This is exactly what the Nazi propaganda machine did to convince the German population of the correctness of the Nazi regime. Drawing this kind of analogy gets people's attention and casts the proper light on unwarranted dark propaganda. Who better than I to call a spade a spade, when my people suffered so greatly from such blathering lies.

You are still so much better and above stooping to " Nazi" references. A simple, "perhaps I should have used better wording" would suffice. You have offended many with your comment. Your justification of so doing rings a bit false.

I think this is a case of the truth hurting. Lyle condemns KB and the very next post is by Bren, ironic.

@Lyle -

So, I guess that would make Graeme Zielinski / Mike Tate the equivalent of Jim Jones then right?

At least Goebbels was relatively sane, which is more than I can honestly say for Jones!

BTW - There are way more propagandists for the left then there are for the right if you're being honest!

@Bewildered....I didn't accuse you of being a Nazi.

Poor Lyle has been on a roll this past 24 hrs:

1) bragging about his "proficient intelligence"
2) claiming Walker will suspend all future elections after his victory
3) asking what's wrong with raising taxes
4) refusing to admit anything wrong with the economy
5) and now defending his "right" to call those who disagree with him Nazis ( his reasoning is its ok to do so cause he's a Jew).

Lyle, I truly think the stress of carrying the extreme left/social democratic banner has finally gotten to you. Your comments are getting more and more desperate and ridiculous.. Maybe you should takes break for 72 hours from Patch,the come back as a warrior for the Obama reelection run. After trying to get Klopy, Sandy and Barrett to win, it's obvious to all you need to go for a walk and enjoy the summer.

And pls don't call me a Nazi. Leave the hate mongering to Herr Schmitz

Never said you called me a Nazi. We'd have a real problem if you did, but let's not go into family history. What I said and ment was .... don't respond by calling me a Nazi too.

No, you certainly haven't called me a Nazi. Others yes, not me (tho you've used your proficient inteligence to call me plenty of other less than flatering names... Which I can accept in the heat of the battle) You know this isn't the first time I've called you out for Nazi references against others. Just stop it

@Bewildered...First, let me be clear about the election on Tuesday; I am not so vested in the election to create an inordinate amount of stress. If you go back through my blogs for over a year, you'll find that I have consistently questioned the wisdom of recalling the governor at this time. My desire has been and remains to capture at least one chamber of the legislature.

I also don't deny that we have significant fiscal problems, both nationally and state wide. However, I seriously question the case for causality made by the governor and others in the right wing blaming it on public employees. The true cause of the current economic problems can be traced directly to three decades of bad business management, greed and deregulation of financial services. The governor is a political opportunist that has done everything in his power to grow his own personal power as he prepares for his next move onto the national stage.

I don't understand his committment to values that turns the clock back five decades. His divide and conquer strategy is uncharacteristic of long established Midwest values.

And what about your continued nazi references? Wanta retract those? Then we can move on. BTW, after sparring with you for a long time, I agree you have been consistent in your questioning the recall timing.

@Bewildered...I will retract my Nazi accusations in the spirit of conciliation and moving the discussion forward. My apologies sir.

Thank you, Lyle. Spoken like the true gentleman you are!

Now how bout retrackting all your Walker jabs ? Just kidding, my friend ! Keep staying the sage for the loyal opposition. After Tuesday, looking forward to enlightening sparring over the Pres election. I bet I feel about the pres election the way you do for the Gov recall. Not thrilled about the guy in power nor the guy my party has chosen . Whatever happened to all the " good" candidates ?

Neville Chamberlain's forte was diplomacy as well. Look how well that worked out.

For years previous Wisconsin Governor's used the WEA, NEA, AFSCME cookie cutter agendas. Now a conservative group comes along with legislation that makes alot of sense and Bren equates them to the Illuminati.

Anti, the Illuminati were a secret organization of Enlightened freethinkers (logic/reason). What, may I ask, is "freethinking" about a governor who signs off on cookie cutter legislation written by a profit-at-all costs special interest group? It is the antithesis of enlightened logic/reason. It is base greed and opportunism.

Scott Walker presents himself as an innovator, a reformer. He is a puppet, a regressor. The most offensive element of all of this is that other extremists have a passion, a goal, distorted as most of us would see it (religion, anarchy, etc.). The goal here is unadulterated greed, couched as whatever targeted constituencies may be duped into believing it to be and it is sickening.

And what was all the union driven legislation that was pushed through during the Diamond Jim Doyle years. That was greed that just robbed state and local coffers and empowered unions to get their own people elected.

You wacko conspiracy theories hold absolutely no water at all!

Anti, you're all over the map today, from Neville Chamberlain to the Illiterati. If I am a "conspiracy theorist," then it's a darn big conspiracy and Fox News/News Corp. is its high priest. Here's a link that provides a "secret" Fox News interview with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, where he shares the "conspiracy:" "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president," The long term goal is to make America a one-party dominant country; that party of course being greed-friendly. We have already seen traditional Republican incumbents beaten in primaries by extremely well-funded Tea/ALEC candidates.

Is this a strategy? Yes. Is it seditious/anti-American? I believe it is. But is a wacky conspiracy theory? Absolutely not. Let's keep it real.

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/mcconnell-stopping-obamas-re-election-still-

Only a sociopath can regard people seeking a fair salary and benefits as greedy, while not say a word about the two dozen or billionaires backing Walker. What are they Auntie Alinsky, the Mother Teresa fan club?

Bren, wanting to make Barack Hussein Obama a one-term president is a political strategy, not a conspiracy.

You wouldn't happen to be a teacher would you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p59MSsLv7Vc

@Bren -
Conspiracies either contain or are founded upon a secret agenda that isn't made known to the public at large.

As you've pointed out, the desire to make Obama a one term President has been publicly revealed and is out there for all to see - there is no secret about it, ergo, as Anti has stated, there is no conspiracy regarding this agenda, it's simply a political tactic.

Contrast to your diatribes about ALEC. No where on ALEC's website does it state "our goal is to screw over the poor and middle class so that the wealthy elite can rape them dry," correct? And yet, that is exactly what you would have us believe about the ALEC agenda. As ALEC doesn't promote itself in the way in which you describe their motives, your unfounded believe would indeed constitute a secret agenda. And, as we've already established, a secret agenda is a component, if not the foundational element, of a conspiracy theory.

Did I really need to explain that to you?

Score another one for The Anti-Alinsky!

Bren, here is an example of cookie cutter legislation that 48 states passed. It's known today as the 19th amendment to the United States Constitution, but during ratification it was known as the Women's Suffrage Amendment.

Obviously, all 48 state legislatures (at that time) knew it was a good piece of legislation, so it was passed. Much can be said of the ALEC agenda. When a piece of legislation is a good idea, why shouldn't all states use it?

And ultimately, it is up to each state's legislature to take the vote.

Every person has the responsibility and privilege of researching candidates. I share my own personal observations of Walker the County Executive and my research into his actions since becoming governor of Wisconsin. Your sarcastic humor aside, I hope that what I post has provided motivation for carefully researching candidates and not voting along party lines. The Tea/ALEC/GOP does not honor the Republican Party in my opinion, and does not represent the core principles of conservatism. They talk the talk when it suits their purpose but when it comes to actual practice they are sprinting in the opposite direction, toward radical extremism.
Most of like to live within one-to-two degrees right or left of center. I hope folks will vote for Balanced Barrett on Tuesday.

I think it's reasonable to expect that your personal observations will be given as much weight as anyone else's here. Hopes you may have for anything beyond that would most likely be a byproduct of your well nurtured self image.

Amen Dick. It's hardly courage when you are backed by billionaires.

Take Lincoln who said ""I have two great enemies, the southern army in front of me and the financial institutions, in the rear. Of the two, the one in the rear is the greatest enemy..... I see in the future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of the war."

God Honest Abe was smart vs Dishonest Scott.

The barflies on this blog, however, don't get that.

Keith is a sad mix of Alzheimer's and Alcoholism.

@Schmitzy -

If voter fraud is such nonsense, then why did the DOJ announce today that they were sending in poll watchers for both the June 5th and November elections? Needless to say, it's primarily the Democratic hotbeds in the state that are targeted in the DOJ list of polls to watch.

Just make sure you're getting my $50 ready to present to me ;-)

Thanks for the trip to fantasyland Jimmy. It is sweet you so desperately to believe. The reason for the poll projection is to prevent bullying from T-Bagger tree dwellers. The poll watchers are for mischief along the lines of the Kathy Nicholaas brand.

Your boy W spent $7 MM in tax payer money that you barflies whine so much about and found nothing. Fired a bunch of federal attorneys and found nothing. In short, there is nothing.

We all know why voter ID is in place Jimmy. My leg is wet. It's not raining.

But this comes from a guy that thinks his dead mother-in-law should be able to vote.

@Schmitzy -

You're going to have to come up with a new boogeyman, as Kathy Nicholaus is sitting out this election. That's old news my friend, are you really that far behind the times?

From the DOJ press release:

"Seven teams will be assigned to Milwaukee (in cooperation with the Milwaukee County District Attorney’s Office) and two will be assigned to Madison. One team will operate in each of the following communities: Appleton, Green Bay, Racine/Kenosha, Waukesha, Eau Claire, Wausau, Janesville/Beloit and La Crosse."

Sure looks like the DOJ is most worried about shenanigans happening in Milwaukee and Dane Counties, doesn't it? And, just as I said before, aren't the Democratic hotbeds in the state Milwaukee and Dane Counties? Not to mention the other cities on the watch list, other than Waukesha of course.

Wrong again Schmitzy!!!

Looks like the Feds know which side is more likely to try and cheat to steal this election, doesn't it?

Get my $50 ready to present!!!

Let's see. 9:00 on a Saturday night. Schmitz is seeing double when he looks in the mirror, he's calling everyone "barflies" and he's apparently pissed himself.

Sounds like intervention time to me.

The desperation has hit bottom.

Not a lick of evidence! Guy's a paid troll. And is making a fool out of himself? We can all see how he's spending this beautiful Sunday morn

What is it that Hoffa calls this type of guy? Low hanging anal grapes or something like that.

Do we have to read it twice?

Nope, just flag it.

A hearsay hit piece from a source that can neither be located or confirmed!

WOW - you guys are really desperate, aren't you?

Proof once again my friends, that Barrett and the Dems are targeting the low information, non-thinking voter!

All, keep in mind ReCall ! is our old friend Buckey trying to hide behind a new name. As Buckey, he was a jerk and warned by the editor to cut it out ( check out his history) and he's continuing his rants as Recall !. Why should we expect anything less.?
Wonder what new name he's going to have to come up with Wensday ? Maybe we should give him some suggestions? Have at it boys

No surprise - Bucky's been having an identity crisis ever since the Dems nominated a no answers/solutions candidate to take on Walker in the recall election.

Personally, I kinda liked McBride's brief stint as Bob 'McLiberal' - put a smile on my face anyway :-)

I'm sure Bucky's post election screen name will be "I Voted 4 Trivedi," because he'll be too embarrassed to admit that he voted for 3 time loser Barrett!

@GD Freethinker -

Can you name one thing that the Koch Bros have received out-of-the-ordinary from our state government since Walker's been office?

If you're wrong about this point... well, do I really need to run through the rest of your nonsense?

Proof once again that Barrett and the Dems are targeting the low information, non-thinking voter!

I'd like to see proof of the 30,000 kids that were kicked off of BadgerCare.

Proof once again that Barrett and the Dems are targeting the low information, non-thinking voter!

Beat ya Hoffa.

He's also a non-voter, at least in this election. Newark, representin'

A fine example of Jersey civility and intelligence.

Ever notice how Brash has trouble forming a rational thought ? He can't dispute factual information in an intelligent fashion so he resorts to name calling & unwarranted attacks on those with whom he so vehemently disagrees. Loser is an apt description of both Brash & the lefty-wing candidates he habitually supports.

Oh, Brash is a Doper too.

Brash Brazen lives in KALIFORNIA and won't be voting for Tom Barrett... Brash Brazen also has the IQ of a chimpanzee so take his opinion for what it's worth, not much.

Yes, let's get back to insulting our own neighbors.

@Greg -

You the man - you're starting to steal Bob McLiberal's thunder!

@Brash -

Here's a little advice: lay off the Daily Kos, as it's really starting to rot your brain, and go back to watching the Jersey Shore - your intelligence will actually improve!