@Bren... What is the 'Obviously only one signature/address is counted' procedure that is followed, assuring all of Wisconsin that multiple signings(if any) by the same individual are discarded? Can you link us to a wi.gov web site that explains the methodology the state will follow for duplicate discovery and elimination? How do I confirm, with the state of WI, that I signed a legitimate petition or if I did not sign,that my name was not forged on the petition.

Jay, one signature is counted. If you truly are one of the very few who don't know this, that is even more reason for you to do this very important research all by yourself as a learning process.

Concerning your forgery concern, there have been about a half a dozen actual voting irregularities in the past few decades. I don't know why you would think that your name, out of all Wisconsin citizens, would be chosen for a extraordinarily rare act of voter irregularity (in this theoretical case, forgery). There will still be an election.

@Bren... Obviously, you don't have a clue. Signing the recall petition is not voting, so your response about voting irregularities is irrelevant. It it simple to complete multiple recall petitions and sign the names and address of a number of various other individuals, such as friends and neighbors. Again, what protections have been established, by the state, to catch irregularities of this nature?

Jay, instead of wasting my time with defensive and facile barbs, I respectfully submit that the one without information--you--are the "clueless" one. (your epithet, not mine.) If you don't have information, look it up yourself.

Bren:

What 'information' do you have that supports your theory that nobody ever forges signatures on recall petitions (or that it is a rare occurrence)? It's as easy as opening up the phone book and signing the listed names, addresses and phone numbers...

To repeat Jay's question--what safeguards have been established to prevent this situation from happening or detecting it after it occurs?

Cow, how did you arrive at that conclusion from my posts?

From this statement.

"Concerning your forgery concern, there have been about a half a dozen actual voting irregularities in the past few decades. I don't know why you would think that your name, out of all Wisconsin citizens, would be chosen for a extraordinarily rare act of voter irregularity (in this theoretical case, forgery). There will still be an election."

Grasping at straws. You take yourself serious with a comment like this. WOW. 88% of Wisconsin's population is not part of the public unions. That number is around 3.3 of the 4.2 million registered voters in our state. ACT 10 is working for us. Time to take responsibility for funding your own retirement (YOUR RETIREMENT) and paying for your healthcare. Who in their right mind elect anyone to serve 12% of the population. Look within and go reconcile with yourself.

Sorry Michael, there are reasons other than the attack on public unions that are inspiring the Walker recall.

@Bren -

If what you say is correct, then could you please explain to us why the six Republican senators were recalled over the summer.

Sandy: You must be talking of your own Democratic Party.

Lie #1: Scott Walker never campaigned about limiting collective bargaining to wages.

Wrong: In a newsletter sent to WEAC members in October of 2010, just a couple of weeks before the election, they outlined almost every single item in Act 10.
http://www.weac.org/luc/newsletters/October%20Lakewood%20Lookout.pdf

Lie #2: The unions and the Democratic Senators were blind-sided by the moes to limit collective Bargaining.

Again, you can read for yourself a quote from the Wisconsin State Journal madey by Democrat Senator Hansen stating Walker has even stated he may eliminate collective bargaining to balance the budget.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/dems-end-lame-duck-session-after-failure-to-pass-union/article_e836dc76-0862-11e0-a476-001cc4c03286.html?mode=story

Lie #3: Walker is doing this to give tax breaks to the Koch brothers who have bought the Republicans vote.

Again, it is the Dems lying. Koch bothers donated $43,000 to the Walker campaign and a whopping $160,000 in 8 years (since 2003) to all Wisconsin Republican candidates combined. Whil the unions donated how many millions?
http://www.commoncausewisconsin.org/2011/03/koch-brothers-pour-more-campaign-cash.html

So it is who lying to whom Sandy? These are your own liberal outlets reporting this stuff and yet they get away with the lies. You have been had.

Hello Mr. Hoffa--the senatorial recall is a different topic. However, speaking only for myself, I supported the Lazich recall because I didn't (and do not) support her rubberstamping.

Michael, where do you get 88%?

Do your research Joe. 12% of the registered voting population in Wisconsin belongs to PUBLIC Unions. Not UNIONS.

For what itis worth I am in a "public union" and I am sorry to say I voted for Walker, it won't happen again! I am not alone.

@ Joe

I was an independent and did not vote for Walker. However, after seeing the childish behavior of the union members, I will vote for him next time and I am not alone.

the 'sha guy

I am sure it will work both ways, the question is...

@Michael...The recall is not strictly about unionization. It may be for you, but for many in the state it is about honesty, transparency, and a good old fashioned Wisconsin value of fair play. Midwesterners have a reputation for being practical and usually rejects extremism. If you look through these postings and threads; those strong midwestern values come through. It's not just us partisans, but the people in the middle seeking compromise. Extreme statements from either side of the issues becomes fodder for rejection by the practical minded moderates and independent minded majority. As a partisan in this fight, I am as guilty as any other for stirring the pot. Our race to the bottom of civil dialog will have negative consequences and don't be suprised if none of us can predict the outcome of this exercise in democracy.

Lyle- Please read this about honesty. You have been lied to by your own party. See the three links above.

@Brian Dey...My party hasn't lied to me, I have no party in this fight.

Lyle- "It may be for you, but for many in the state it is about honesty, transparency, and a good old fashioned Wisconsin value of fair play." Okay, so take party out of it. Who is being honest and transparent. Like I have stated numerous times, Walker made it very well known, so this falacy that obviously you got snookered on is just that. Oh, and one other thing. The recall walker domain name was purchased the day of the election. No matter what Walker did, or didn't do, the unions wanted nothing to do with a Governor Walker and had planned all along for this fiasco. Say what you will, but it is refreshing to have an elected official campaign to do something, then actually follow through and deliver. Doyle never did. Barrett never did, Feingold used to, and Kohl has just been occupying space. And Lena is involved in a well-documented voters scam. Say what you will, but at least the Republicans in this state are honest and have integrity, and the thugs who stole the democratic party are bought and paid for by the unions. I believe if you or I did what the unions are pulling, they call it racketeering and bribery if we are going to be honest and transparent.

Sitting through a GOP presidential primary debate would be one of the worst punishments I can think of. Listening to Herman Cain spouting about the 9-9-9 tax plan he stole from Sim City or quoting Pokeman, Rick Perry, Michelle Bachman et al just being themselves...the mere threat of this as punishment would be an effective deterrent, I would think.

Sounds like a job for AWD and his fellow Patriots to take care of!

Or, we could just extradite them to Texas!

I loathe partisan politics so much I'd like the excuse to defend myself against someone who feels the need to threaten me with their ignorance. They always seem to sense my intent and back off, though. Survival instincts of the lower animals, I guess.

You should have reported that to the store manager and requested they have the jerks removed from the property. I think a pest control company can remove the rodents....

In that situation, you can and should have called the police and had a police report filed. That is assault and a crime. However I will say you should probably take the pro walker stickers off your car to avoid any broken windows or key marks. Unfortunately our society has come to that. You cannot even show support for Sports, Religion or Politics without getting your property damaged...Sad, Sad, Sad

This is pure conjecture, if it did indeed happen.

C T, assuming your accusations about the recall workers are true, and not condoning their theoretical behavior, do you make the connection that having a bumper sticker on your car is 1) forcing your unsolicited views on others and 2) engaging and soliciting a response? You have the right to put anything on your car you wish, but a mature person is mindful and prudent.

@Bren -

"1) forcing your unsolicited views on others and 2) engaging and soliciting a response?"

That's a complete crock, a totally un-American response, and you know it! Under your assertions, everything a person does could be considered a symbolic “forcing [of their] unsolicited views on others” that would “engage[] and solicit[] a response[.]” I guess Bren never leaves the safe confines of his/her home due to the risk of otherwise being labeled a hypocrite on this point, if Bren truly believes in such assertions.

Bren, by posting your anti-Walker comments here on Patch, you realize that your “forcing your unsolicited views on others and [are] engaging and soliciting a response[,]” don’t you?

If the words and actions of the recall petitioners made CT fearful of an eminent attack upon CT’s well being or constituted ‘fighting words,’ then such words and actions legally constitute both a civil and criminal assault, which is illegal. Personally, I don’t believe that anyone’s symbolic support or disapproval of anything is intended to illicit the response of having a crime committed upon themselves, but apparently Bren does. Bren’s world must be a pretty messed-up place to live if Bren actually believes in the crapola Bren is perpetuating here.

Give it up Bren - you are a partisan hack and definitely not an independent as you constantly claim to be!

Bren- And unions don't force new employees to join union and collect dues to bribe pooliticians to force their will on the? Give me a break?

So you are suggesting that a bumper sticker is not a tacit intention to elicit a response? Why then put it on one's vehicle for all to see? I've seen bumper stickers that said, "How's that change working for you?" with a red circle/slash over the Obama logo, etc. Corporate logos/ads, clearly bumperstickers are a mass-communication medium.

C T is free to wear her heart on her sleeve so to speak, but by doing so is exposing herself to responses, positive and negative. For example, this morning I was careening into work and pulled alongside a vehicle with a "Recall Walker" bumper sticker. I caught the occupants' eyes, gave them a "thumbs up" and received a hearty "thumbs up" in return. Over the weekend, we chuckled at a skittish fellow on the road with an enormous pro-Walker sign on his car. I say skittish because he wouldn't let anyone pull up alongside-he'd speed up and change lanes. When we drove past his eyes were rigidly forward. I'm guessing he was receiving salutes of a different finger, if you take my meaning. Which is why I say again, it's a right to put a bumper sticker on your car, but be prepared for reaction. There's nothing un-American about that. It's freedom of speech.

Wait, seriously???

Do you not remember what the WI GOP did this summer???

Here's a reminder: http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/noquarter/123202643.html

Must have been something they learned from the libs.

http://biggovernment.com/mtrackers/2011/06/07/the-lefts-hypocrisy-on-fake-candidates-in-wisconsin/

Don't kid yourself Diana, the left is and always will be the master of dirty politics. You just hear what you want to hear.

@H fox...I'm sure if the Republicans would have thought about it they would have pursued a recall. However, Scooter has stepped way beyond and pushed government overreach to new levels. He has also stripped poser away and increased the power and control of the executive branch to new levels. Such a power grab has never been seen in this state before. Tommy Thompson was always credited with seeking power but he's an amateur in comparison with Scooter. I'm glad you husband is pleased. If and when he has to make a grievance, I wish him good luck. Also, when it comes time in the future for layoffs to occur, the oldest and most expensive teachers will be the first to go.

How are his wages? Work hours? Prep/professional periods? Vacation, sick days, emergency leave, personal days? I can go one, but apparently the union had little to do with these items, so I guess they would have little to do with other items. It always seems like no one is helping you when they are, just wait until he is on his own. And you idea of tenure in public schools is the Fox news version. Get a clue!! There are policies and procedures in place. The only reason there is crap teachers is crap management and school leadership.

My union dues go towards making sure that my job is stable, my pay is appropriate, the conditions I work in are ideal, and many other things like supporting candidates that support me. I am the union, because a union is a group of organized people working for a common goal. Who has your husbands goals in mind now? He is responsible for his own...everything. Let me know when that breaks the bank.

Perhaps I'm a little off base here, but what's wrong with being responsible for one's own goals?

God forbid you take personal responsibility for fulfilling your obligation to your employer, planning for your retirement and ensuring you are doing everything possible to provide a health and safety net for your family. Why be so foolish to assume this would be the standard when you can wake up with your hand out assuming someones else should be responsible for this. For those of you who want to turn back the clock on this election because things didn't go your way, you're in for a big surprise. What is your candidate of choice going to run his campaign on and tell the voters of Wisconsin. "I will ensure that the deficit continues to grow, I will continue to be the whipping post for the Union, I will restore education funding to prior levels to placate the tenured useless teachers who care nothing about the children and refer to themselves as prison wardens, I've heard your crying, whining and vulgarities and will give into the squeaky wheel. And don't worry, we'll steal the $30 + million dollars we spent on recall elections from the transportation fund and blame the GOP for having poor roads and bridges. No one will ever know that we are on a path to ruination because you 12% will be happy and the other 88% have to deal with it.
YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK. At the end of SW's tenure when the budget is balanced and your property taxes have stayed the same and our unemployment rate is at a manageable 4%, what will you say then.

Stephen,
When no one listens to anyone else, its all just shouting. This isn't what democracy looks like, its what America looks like.