Your post is pretty disturbing. It really doesn't matter whether the girl got into his car willingly or whether there was vodka. Forcing sexual contact on someone else has been a crime for as long as I can remember. This is compounded when the aggressor is an adult and the victim a minor. This has also been a social and legal standard since I was a child (which was a long time ago).

You quote Frank Zappa for reasons that really aren't clear. He opposed government overreach, particularly in the area of censorship, but he was not an advocate for sexual abuse of minors.

WOW, hearing commits like Ray Ray's makes me realize just how far we have to go. No is no is no. You can say yes to a ride, to a drink, to a kiss, that does not equate into some adult shoving his tool in your mouth. I commend the 15 year old that had the strength to stand up and point out her abuser in light of such ignorance as Ray Ray's. I can bet the farm that he does NOT have a teenage daughter.

Nancy, I quoted Frank because he overtly recognized the sluttiness of some girls, not to say with any certainty that this girl qualifies. I suppose she qualifies to the same degree that this 18 year old suspect is guilty of a crime. "Joe had a girlfriend named Mary. She used to go to the church club every week. They'd meet each other there, hold hands, and think pure thoughts. But one night at the social club meeting, Mary didn't show up. She was sucking c**k backstage at the Armory in order to get a pass to see some big rock group for free." -Crewslut, Joe's Garage Act I, 1979- Also, "You paint your head, your mind is dead, you don't even know what I just said...that's youuuu...American womanhood. You're phone on top, you're phony underneath, you lay in bed and grit your teeth..." -Harry You're a Beast, We're Only in it for the Money, 1968- Frank had much to say on Susie Creamcheese and what she really does. You are in over your head with this argument.

Amy, I do have a teenage daughter. And make no mistake, I know what they are capable of. I do not assume that my precious little lamb will carry her virginity accross the threshhold of matrimoney wiith Prince Charming. Probably, like most girls, she will lie to me at some point in the future, whether it's in high school or college, and she will drop trou with the boy she is desparately, passionately in love with, not believing me that his passion will quickly wane, uh, after, when "I love you so" turns into "I have to go" "Where's the remote?" or "Make me a sandwich". So let's not get personal, Amy. Have you ever gone to bed as a teenager, rushing past Daddy without a kiss goodnight, and the curious dog would not leave your breath alone? What team did those boys play for?

Nope. I'm not "in over [my] head." Zappa was talking/singing about a fictional groupie. Suzy Creamcheese and Joe's Garage aren't real. You're confusing art and reality and using this to rationalize the sexual violation of fifteen year old girl. This doesn't make you hip, it makes you sick and sad. It doesn't reflect on the crime, either. We're not talking about a jaded groupie. We're not even talking about consensual sex involving an underage participant. We're talking about a kid who got in over her head and an adult who took advantage of her...got her drunk and forced himself on her. He committed a crime and he got caught.

Nancy, you were the one who brought issue with my original FZ reference. In FZ quotes and biography, you are in over your head with me. Not to beat the dead Frank to death, Frank wrote these songs based on his experience with chicks on the road. His point is obvious and although written in fictional storyesque, he does accurately depict the fact that there are naughty girls out there. There are. Back to this issue, I hope you aren't a judge or lawyer. He did not necessarily commit a crime. So far, it's merely 'she said', and it may or may not be true. But that's not even the issue for me. How did this boy know that she was pick-up-able? What signal did she give to passing motorists that indicated that she was on the market? Was she getting her business plan together? Why did this boy single her out? What prompted her to enter his vehicle? Did she enter on the lure of booze? I can't dispute that 18 is of legal age and 15 isn't, but my instincts tell me that this may very well be a very naughty teenage girl, the kind you don't take home to mother, who will never let your spirits down, once you get her off the street. She may very well be a super freak, super freak, who was super freaking, yow! (Temptations, sing!) Or maybe she was assulted and all allegations are true. Maybe it was guilt. Hurt feelings? Jealousy? Hangover w/standard regret? Was she alone at the time of the pick-up? Friends don't let friends climb into cars, get drunk, and gob knob. We just don't know, do we?

Ray Ray - You seem to be really, really defensive about sexual abuse of children (yes, victims under 18). Go find more appropriate websites for your sexual fantasies and moral turpitudes. .

My apologies. The original story on the investigation did point out that the defendant picked the girl up at her home; I inadvertently left that fact out of this follow-up on his arrest. The girl was not hitch-hiking – she was going on a date.