A tantrum, that's what.

Where "tantrum" is redefined to mean "democracy..."

Democracy? When Walker spent 6 times in financing, than his opponent “OR” has the state been auctioned off? Suppression of voter registrations and gerrymandering with biases? Democracy or in tune with Roberts Ruling in 2010 of unlimited funds from corporations to buy the candidates of their choice?
Mussolini described Fascism as the “Incorporation of the Corporations to the state” Time has come for the public to demand a cap on expenditures on all elected officials, that is in ratio to the office they seek. Perhaps then we could have level field to play out our Democracy…

It was nonsense to have a recall because some people didn't/don't agree with his policies. If it had been based on a criminal act of some kind, I could understand. That's what elections are for. The unions were busing in people from all over the place, and trashing Madison, which started the whole mess. I say the unions should pay back the millions in taxpayer dollars that it cost the taxpayers of Wisconsin to conduct this recall, along with the damage repairs. If after his term, the majority wants a change, than so be it.

Bren, that's BS. The spending was nearly equal on both sides from all the latest reports. The only one who was clouding the issues was Barrett. He never has stood for anything and never will.

It's not just Diane Hendricks that wants a Right to Work state. I would say the vast majority of those that support Walker do. And what is wrong with that. If it is your right to belong to a union, why is it not my right not to belong to one.

And yes, usually those that support someone do so because they agree with them. You seem to forget, that it is Walker who is the leader and we believe in him.

And to your last statement, spoken like a true loser.

Bren is just mad Tommy used all his money on falsified commercials about the John Doe Investigation rather than trying to get a message out what he would do better than Scott. Apparently nothing came to mind.

The only talking point MSNBSAD could come up with. cry more no one paid anyone for a vote unless you were bussed in from Illinois to vote in Racine.

Brian, if comparing only direct campaign contributions your claim would be correct. If we include Super PAC and other hidden donations the Race to the Bottom folks blew the union donors out of the water.

I think the people who think they want a Right to Work for Less state don't understand how unions set the wage and benefits standards for the private sector.
Right to Work for Less attacks private unions by letting people parasitically suck from the union teat without paying for it. Nice. In RWL states, workers are paid $1,500-$5,000 less per year than other states. So no thanks on that one for me but you can see why Diane likes it.

Sorry, I don't consider someone who checks off the to-do list of a special interest group to be a "leader." Terms that come to mind include "sycophant," "puppet," "sheep," etc. Hm.

As for my last statement, very patriotic to call me-and the Founding Fathers-losers. When my Declaration of Independence-signing ancestor put his life on the line for liberty I don't think he could have imagined the yearning for the return of authoritarianism that has gripped the right-wing fringe. When my ancestor the "Midnight Rider" set down his beer and set off to warn Hancock and Adams of impending arrest, I don't think he, or my ancestor the militia colonel could accept that only 200+ years later there'd be people willing to support sedition for profit. Maybe they would, but probably not.

Steve, any proof on that? ; )

Bren- And what would you cal people that are forced to join a union? I am pretty sure the Founding Fathers were not interested in forcing people to have to do anything, yet you find it ok for unions to dictate membership, dictate pay, dictate work conditions.

You find it ok for union dues to be used to further advance their leaders political agendas, even when the members don't agree. You find it ok that even though we vote in a secret ballot, unions force an open ballot so they can openly intimidate those that do not want a union.

Like slavery, unions are a thing of the past. Only 11% of the working population are unionized, and it is shrinking. You are out of touch, and living in a dream world of the past. These are not your father's unions. These are selfish thugs that could give a damn about the middle class worker so long as they get theirs at our expense.

As for Walker, the majority has spoken. Deal with it or move.

Bren, Please explain to me the difference between Super Pac money and Union money! Where was your outrage when in the November Governor election, the unions spent 35 million dollars trying to buy Wisconsin. So, how is that money different how?? Is it different color, size, or is that it just supports you candidate. When the liberals scream about campaign money, they really show how transparent the are. Try a new line from the union handbook. That one is old, tired, and worn out!!!!

Again Bren, I say to you; How come your party claims it is aright to abort a child, but will not give the worker the right to work as a non-union member in a union shop. Why is it the right of the employee to unionize but not the right of the employer to move his company elsewhere to not be a unionized shop? And please tell me why your party demands that there be no voter ID, yet have an open, non-secret ballot for union members.

Sounds more like your party gives a damn about freedom as long as they can control what is free and what isn't. Obamacare comes to mind, as well.

Hey Dey. Still foaming nonsense and now adding oxymoron statements. Why can’t a person be non union in a union shop? DUH Really what are you smoking? Why can’t companies move to locations that are non union. DUH! Again. They do its called outsourcing to third world countries. No doubt you think we should be more like third world countries! Regressive you are.. Afraid to lead. Babbling about abortion. Now you want to tell women what they can do with their bodies? Soon you will have them wearing burlap potatoes sacks and want them groveling at your feet, as you do for your master FOX. Abortions like the 2 wars of 9 years that aborted hundreds of thousands both from infancy to the seniors and all in between. Now that you would vote for that. What a hypocrite. Obamacare, perhaps you have not been following the results just like your Mitt, when he was BOOOOED when he attacked Obamacare. Now try going to polls that are not infected with a rabid Fox’s vomit.

Bernie, Bernie, Bernie. Wsssh...Right over your head. Some day I really have to find out what is in the Shorewood water supply. The bottomline is that you lost. You wanted Walker and you got bubkis. The unions poured millions in and the only way they won back the Senate is by cheating in Racine County. But you guys cover it by claiming incompetence and everyone believes because we all know how incompetent liberals are.

You missed the main point entirely. Dems only believe in freedom when it suits their needs to attract voters. Let them kill unborn children; a new voting block. Let illegal aliens come in andgrant them amnesty; a new voter block. Make blacks more dependent on government; a new voter block. grant gay marriages; new voter block. Give the unions whatever they want; new voter block. Get the picture now? Probably not. But the majority is getting it. Proved it with the re-election of Walker. He even waon by a bigger margin. And again, your figures of 6 to 1 are false.

And the typical strategy comes agin from the left. Tax the rich. Blame Bush! After all, Barrack Hussein Obuma is not responsible. Glad to see that GWB had a third term we didn't know about. Oh wait, what a great idea to give thousands of automatic weapons to drug lords; that will stop them. Budget? Who needs them... The list is endless and you want this crack-whore back in office? Good luck with that!

Hey DEY 6 to 1 is correct. Your ramblings on freedom is ambiguous with out foundations. What I wanted is that the democrats gain traction in a republican infested dictatorial administration. That was achieved. Then off you go babbling about some conspiracy stuff to explain that. Whew! Then off you go again telling women what they can do with their bodies! Trying to get blacks to be dependent on government? Are you implying welfare? Give me a break. In an election year welfare! Like the welfare that the top ten oil companies, with record profits, paid ZERO taxes, Get Tax Returns into the hundreds of million for each and receive Billions that they call subsidies. Same welfare program republicans will shut down the country if we try to get these welfare leaches of our backs. Yeah I get your drift. You are addicted to the Fox’s vomit. “The Master” Amnesty,? Obama has deported more than the two Busch’s combined. Perhaps you are referring to how he is trying to get the cream of the illegal’s on a 2 year program. College grads, military service and so on LOL he is in-sourcing quality laborers. Sure could use that new ambitious blood into our society. Replace the sloth and the lazy .

Hey Bernie Burnout, where is your proof that it is 6 to 1; or is your math like your spelling? Didn't realize we had Busch as President.

Oh yes, that's right. Label blacks as lazy. What a racist. So we'll just give them welfare so that illegals can work here. Brilliant. Simply brilliant. Please go spew your communist/socialist crap to Lyle Ruble from Shorewood. Apparently, you two yahoos have a lot in common. A couple of brainwashed hippies still left in the 60's.

Leave it to us conservatives to clean up the liberal's failed experiment. You simply have no answers to the questions I posed, at least any coherent ones.

Hey Dey; Are you drinking? Look at your post. Its all over the place and all contorted. It all adds up, to, do, do, from some intoxicated spammer. Try again when you sober up. Your contortions have spun you right out into some false assertions as to what I commented. As to the 6 to 1 scenario. Would not matter if I present the source, which you can discover for yourself, you would just contort it into who knows what?
Now some music to sooth your troubled soul. http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Are you smoking crack again Bernie? Not a drinker, sorry. When you get down off your buzz and can speak coherently and provide proof, we'll talk again. Enjoy your short lived majority in the state senate, because that is all you lefties will have for a long, long time. Mitt; President. Congress; Majority Republicans. House; Majority Republicans. Governor; Walker. State Assembly and Senate; Republican majority.
Coming to you November 2012. Have a nice night!

Bren, I'm sure that your democrat leaders are made up of all independent thinkers, with no liberal agenda to socialize America. They ALWAYS talk about their own records and never spend millions and time and effort clouding the issues to cast doubt on one candidate. And the union PACS and the millions they spend are all about getting ou their candidate's message and never smearing anyone's reputation with lies about felonies and criminal activities even though they know that they are not true. And ah, please don't forget that Sal Alinsky only wants peace and harmony... GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

Don't forget that a republic is voted by majority and represents the majority. That is why Walker has been elected and re-elected. Because he represents us, the MAJORITY. No compromise, we won and won again, and in November, we will have the State Senate Majority, then it is full steam ahead to get gid of the corrupt public unions for good!

@Brian Dey...Give your rhetoric a rest. No one is interested in your anti-union diatribe.

Communist/socialist, I don't think so. From where you stand, anyone who is slightly left of Attila the Hun is a communist/socialist. As far as living in the 1960s, this is the usual accusation that you and the extreme political right throw out when you want to discount people concerned with social justice and don't agree with your pocketbook morality.

Finally, your claims of being an enlightened employer are hard to prove. Of course you would claim your employees think that you are the greatest thing since sliced bread. To do otherwise would probably mean they would be unemployed.

WOW nobody in Wisconsin drinks! Sure do smell like it. Tonto likes home movies. LOL he doesn’t drink either. Where is a guy supposed to go to get a drink around here? Oh well back to your gibberish. So brought you an example of why 2012 is not going to be what you think its going to be. http://youtu.be/qN0odXjQDFQ Yeah remember those guys. God Bless America kinda guys. Not like you, they drink. We had a grand time…

Greg your question as to why we want to see his records is Naïve. Where ever you go for employment it is required. Some require more than others for information. Like say the PRESIDENT OF THE USA application forms. Apparently the little that has emerged before he pulled back got the SEC’s attention on his handling of finances. Possible felony charges could evolve from that. Consider the questions that he has been ducking while he tries to rearrange how to explain his finances.
Mitt will Not show his IRS Tax information! Mitt does Not know where his monies are ! Mitt does NOT know how it is invested ! Mitt does Not know when he quit Bain ! Well Americans know what all these KNOTS add up to, and it is Not presidential material.

Bernard, You are a moron.
1) You don't know how to use a simple forum. Why is this reply here?
2) "Where ever you go for employment it is required." Maybe a driver's license. But tax returns and bank statements?
3) Like say the PRESIDENT OF THE USA application forms. Do you have a copy of said forms?

Gregy;, Do you know the difference between forum and forms? At the bottle again are yee?
Well many of the areas I worked for required Background checks, IRS tax returns . For security clearance, or property purchase, Interstate operations etc., etc.. 5 to 10 years depending on what I was applying for.
Do I have copies for the applications for the President Of America.. LOL Not on me. LOL are you thinking of applying! You really are going over the edge into some dark bottomless abyss of ignorance and destitution.
Now put mommies computer back before she find out , that you are using it to expose to the world your state of mind… 99 bottles on the wall….
“Some people say” lol you must hear that lot going through your mind echoing back and forth and all around. That’s what your Fox says just before it begins to formulate some, or tell you some falsehood and or propaganda. “OR” “ I have heard it said” OR “ People say” etc. etc. Their lawyers told them that must say this before lying. it’s a legal incantation , that wards of the evil lawsuits. They seek out WEAKMINDED Americans, such as yourself, with immature intellect and try, like a Taliban does, to get you to be even more stupid than you are already. You and Tonto are feathers of the same cuckoo bird. Tonto likes home movies and thinks they are real. LOL And so I brought over a reel of one of my home movies for you. http://youtu.be/fys3MsKMpms GET THE PICTURE! LOL

Bernard, This site is a FORUM, not a FORM. You placed your response, to a question, under a statement that has nothing to do with the question. Hence the question "Why is this reply here?" So now you hve proven yourself to be a bigger moron than even I thought. You are now a Super Moron.

That's the pot calling the kettle black. Union members force new employees to be union members and collect dues from the hire date. I own a business and employ people. They don't need a union to be treated fair and in the 15 years I have had employees, they never even thought of unionizing. Please, learn the facts before spouting off.

Bren your assessment that the candidates spent equal amounts on their campaigns is false. You ascertain that unions have a negative influence on cost of laborers productivity is false. Actually most of all your comments are false. To deny the rights for laborers to have a voice, in the distribution of the value of their productivity, has been proved to be inefficient.
1970 to the present, as Unions declined, the wage earnings and benefits have run flat, for laborers. Where in as the wealth of that increased productivity of laborers has been assimilated by the 20% of our populace that has enjoyed a 200% increase in their wealth accumulations. Presently 80% of nations wealth is distributed among the 20% and the remaining 80% of our populace has 20% of the laborers productivity wealth to distribute among themselves.
Decline of the middle class is attributed to the laborers inability to have a voice in the distributions of their labors.
Regressing us back to the 1900’s where in Teddy [R] with his Big Stick went about knocking down the Robber Barons and Monopolies. Then passed into law the need for unions to offset the ambiguities of laborers productivity and the wealth it produces. Less we all lose our Democracy

Bernard, your are working off the assumption that unions are still fighting for the members, when in fact they are lining their pockets more and more. Sure, they occasionally get the Democrats to vote an increase in minimum wage (like THAT really affects the membership), but for the most part they just accomplish vary little.

Truth be told, as union concessions added to business expense, business spent more money on technology and outsourcing in order to cut expensive union jobs. And the union has been powerless to stop it. But rather than redefine and reform themselves, they chose to stick with their archaic system in order to keep dues rolling in.

Businesses, on the other hand, are not stupid. What is the point in making a better, cheaper microwave when there is no one in the country that can buy them? In order to create and build wealth, business need to be able to create a product at a reasonable price, yet still have a base that can afford to buy that product.

Unions have been outdated for years. They either need to step into the times, or go the way of the dinosaur!

SORRY BREN. Got you mixed up with Brian Dey. EGADS Your comments are spot on BREN it is this Brian guy who is ignorant of his statements.. SORRY.

Now The Anti-Alinsky; You are a tad behind on the Unions. Back somewhere around the 50’s and 60’ not to mention the 40’s corruptions. However we examine the corruptions of our corporations, CEO’s, Wall Street, Banking speculations etc. We may find far greater corruption in those areas that were detrimental to our laborers productivity. Presently they have made concisions on many fronts with reductions in wages and benefits. Where in as the corporations and Wall street have no intentions of paying back Main Street. Although must admit some corporations and banks have paid back or are paying back their loans. [Auto Industry City Bank and a few others] “BUT” for the damage on Main Street nope. Laborers once again took the hit and reduced their wage and benefits to aid in the reconstruction of our USA.

Anti This part of my comment belongs below the first one I sent you ran out of space.
Corporations are not stupid goes without saying. “YET” they will seek the greatest profit margin. If it be Mexico or anywhere else with low income laborers. Regardless of the Unions. Are you suggesting that rather than this USA lead the world in laborers productivity values by following the nations that do not provide for the quality of life for their constituents‘? Are we to become the followers of third world countries??
USA is the leader by far in productivity from our laborers and will remain so. You have entered onto the world market from a local concern and so the answerer to that is the removing of the tax breaks for outsourcing and still him them accountable to the IRS for products rendered. Not to stop them but to increase the quality of those that remain and so that they are not penalized by the cheap laborers of the outsourced associate of theirs. This is not a union matter. Whole different ball game here.

Now Anti just caught this statement you made.
“Truth be told, as union concessions added to business expense, business spent more money on technology and outsourcing in order to cut expensive union jobs”
LOL so the more unions give up on wages and benefit’s the more it cost the business? Whew that is an oxymoron statement.
Technology is rapidly advancing and businesses will constantly need to revamp to maintain completive edge. Has nothing to do with unions reducing their wages and benefits !!?? Outsourcing is for businesses that can capitalize on the third world markets. They will do this regardless of what is offered here in the USA. You are suggesting we now follow third world markets for our laborers?? Think NOT !

Bernie, your assumptions that unions are still relevant and useful are false. While not as corrupt as the middle of the century, the union leadership really only looks out for themselves. Look how easily they have been letting go of their own employees as membership has dropped.

I should have been clearer by saying "concessions with unions". One of the options business has if to invest in technology and automation, saving cost on wages and payroll taxes.

Keeping that sort of faith in your union will only lead to disappointment. You need to get your union into the 20th century so it will be a benefit to you and your union brothers!

Just me; ….Your babbling speaks volumes of your degeneration. A mind is such a terrible organ to waste.

Scooter; … Right over your head…. Imagine the monies that flowed into Wisconsin due to the recalls. Lets say $100 Million that Wisconsin would not have now to help off set their budgets.
Although it was sad about that a business decided to outsource their industries from Wisconsin. More to the unemployment line. Think they went to Mexico or about to go.
Dems. did alright out of the fiasco. Gaining two seats and balancing the political power structer.

Bernard......Based on your "thinking", there should be recall elections more often, in order to help bolster the economy. Maybe we have one every month....
Your comment reminds me of Nancy Peloci's comment about unemployment being good for the economy. Do you two know each other? It's unfortunate that stupidity isn't painful. My point was, there was already an election, and the majority spoke. (Turns out you don't like the decision and will continue to whine, along with the rest of the Dems)

Scooter again, whew, right pass you. Recalls is a strong demonstration of the publics discourse with an elected official and or its administration. Note the democrats gained two seats removing the republicans from majority rule. Keep in mind that Walker expended 6 times the amount of financing on his campaign to pay for the propaganda that you bought. The financing was from outside interest. Same one’s that spent $ 5million and $8 million for the republican seats of two republicans. Keep in mind how the republicans suppressed voter registrations and gerrymandered with right twist. Now how long will your populace put up with such deceits before they stop buying into the Foxy propaganda.? How long will the money flow to continue to have lopsided voting? Oh well ,democrats gained two seats and now a general national election is on the way. Lets see what happens then..

Whew all those words and still you say nothing. Spam is what spammers’ do. Blah, blah, blah..
This is the type of leadership they approve of and vote for…
Mitt will Not show his IRS Tax information! Mitt does Not know where his monies are ! Mitt does NOT know how it is invested ! Mitt does Not know when he quit Bain ! Well Americans know what all these KNOTS add up to, and it is Not presidential material.

Hey Dey. 2010 tax returns is all so far. 2011 who knows? This is Mitt we are commenting on. Waiting since when for tax return on 2011. April 17? Sure .. You say you have business. Well so did I and more than one at that. Now retired. Now when I had to complete some forms and prove my financing and background. I had at times had to provide or expect 5 to 10 years of my records and it was never for the office of president. Now Obama has been transparent in all his dealings the good, the bad, and the ugly. Mitt nope. Covert and just out and out false hoods.If some one was to apply for a job at your place and shows you his 2010 tax record and hopes that is enough. Would a little red flag go up in your mind. When you were expecting a 10 year report. As have all the presidents before him. Remember slicky Dick Nixon and how open he was. Now just what are we to make of old flip flop here.. LOL and you have a business? Perhaps you should consider outsourcing it like Mitty your buddy.

Anything but Oblamer the failed communist right?

Yea Brian, where is a REAL obama birth certificate? Why hasn't he explained his fake social security number? Why won't he show any school records? Drivers license records? It's ridiculouse..... somebody pinch me :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGmZ0fhH5fM&feature=related

Bernard, Can you tell us what exactly the Obama campaign would like to look at in Romney's records? I don't give anyone any records without an explanation of what they are looking for. The "something to hide" excuse is total BS.

Your moronic post above did not answer the question. Bernard, Can you tell us what exactly the Obama campaign would like to look at in Romney's records?
Go study your UAW newsletter and see if you can find the answer.

Tonto, Tonto here we go again with the spewing vomit of the Fox that you keep lapping up. Valor Victorian of his Harvard alameda and you can not comprehend what the requires. DUH good to know such sloth’s, as you, are on the right-wing nuts side of this equation. Your ignorance speaks volumes of the party that attracts such creatures.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih6I0zsyIw0&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxoVqMhuzTo
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/13/Top-Ten-Felons-In-Obamas%20Life
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77390.html

Tonto, Tonto are we just going to keep swapping news clips back and forth. You did notice that mine have about a dozen more linked to each with similar stories. Are you so lazy that you can’t read a book, or newspapers, or do some background research on your own. What kinda Indian goes to the zoo to hunt? Your creditability is diminishing. You wants so more than clap your hands just like a seal and bark and I’ll throw you some more.
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/romney-wrong... Now this one you can do some fact checking for yourself. Try it its fun…http://bit.ly/x7vugX ). Now that one is why democrats are not as happy about him as they could be.http://bit.ly/x7vugX ). Now how about some Texan with a point of view.http://youtu.be/Yn7_8QL2weQ Now this one is about how a Fox scurries about.http://youtu.be/MFHKXn8y1WE now this one is to get your feet a tapping. Music with a message. Gee I feel like we are watching home movies at a strangers tepee. BORING !!

Just show us the real birth certificate, explain the FAKE social security number. Oh, yes and the totally FAKE draft card. How about all the missing school records? Yea Oblamer has some splainin to do first before he throws stones in glass houses :(

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxoVqMhuzTo

http://www.rr.com/politics/topic/article/rr/1131/72030447/Sheriff_Arpaio_says_Obama_birth_certificate_is
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