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It's Time for the President To Be Honest About Gas Prices

With a long track record of support for handouts to special interests, corporate welfare that stacks the deck against small businesses and loopholes in the tax code that place an undue burden on the middle class, it should come as no surprise that career politicians like Barack Obama aren’t being honest with the American people when they talk about gas prices. 

Gas prices have doubled since the president took office. Washington should know by now that simply ignoring solutions to the problems we face does not make them go away—it just makes them worse.  

Instead of aggressively pursuing solutions that will ease your pain at the pump and help achieve American energy independence, President Obama and his allies in Congress are writing off the meteoric rise in gas prices as a product of tensions in the Middle East. Their logic is disingenuous, their rhetoric is dishonest, and the consequences of their inaction are having a devastating effect on the pocketbooks of Americans nationwide.

Middle East tensions have existed for decades, but gas hasn’t always cost $4 per gallon. That is because the rise in gas prices is not being dictated by dictators; instead, it is a byproduct of the federal government’s massive debt and deficits. Because the federal government is borrowing nearly 40 cents of every dollar it spends, the Federal Reserve is engaging in quantitative easing—i.e. money printing.

There are a variety of technical reasons for why the Fed is doing this, but simply put, there are not enough willing buyers of treasury debt at current interest rates, requiring the Federal Reserve to monetize our government’s debt.

The consequence of the Federal Reserve’s actions is the de-valuation of the American dollar against all basic necessities. Oil, sugar, corn, wheat, beans, gold, silver and tin are just a few of the commodities that have seen their value increase exponentially as a result of our nation’s reckless and short-sighted fiscal and monetary policies.

While I absolutely agree that we need to build the Keystone XL Pipeline, tap into our domestic oil supply and invest in new energy technologies, it won’t be enough. All of the oil in the world won’t cure the ills brought on by our federal government’s reckless spending and the Federal Reserve’s irresponsible actions. 

Sound fiscal and monetary policy is the key to economic relief. Sadly, far too many of our leaders in Washington either don’t understand this correlation or are unwilling to be honest with the American people. It is due time that those who we elect to be our voice have a level of economic competency and speak frankly while pursuing solutions that will solve our problems today instead of continually making politically expedient excuses and kicking the can down the road. 

If we truly commit ourselves to fiscal responsibility by reining in the Federal Reserve and ending the wild printing of money, we can ease our pain at the pump. 

For more information about my plan for American energy indepdence, please visit www.EricForSenate.com 

pam

10:32 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

the only reason that gas prices can be raised.... is because they can!

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George

9:36 am on Monday, April 2, 2012

while it's frustrating, it is a world market 4 oil. having said that, the president's policy has not helped the "folks" at all!

St. Swithin

10:59 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

It's Time for Eric To Be Honest About Gas Prices
Eric blows a lot of smoke trying to blame it all on the President. He fails to mention the basic cause of rising gas prices - the economy is up, demand is up, and supplies are flat. Economics 101.
Eric can talk about fiscal responsibility all he wants, but I have seen how Republicans spend in the past while racking up debt.

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Randy1949

11:37 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Eric is parroting the usual GOP talking points in order to get elected. Ignore that gas prices were just as high in 2008 under President Bush and that the GOP side insisted it came from factors beyond his control. Ignore the fact that President Bush and the GOP cut taxes and jumped into two expensive, unfunded wars which did not bring us lower gas prices as suggested, taking us from a federal budget surplus to snowballing deficits. In fact, ignore everything but Eric Hovde waving the pretty flag.

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Steve ®

11:50 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

The wars were going to bring lower gas prices? How much oil they got up in der mountains of Afghanistan?

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Randy1949

12:01 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Not a lot in Afghanistan, but Iraq sure has its share of oil. Iraq and the non-existent weapons of mass destruction distracted us from the quick in and out action that Afghanistan should have been.

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Steve ®

12:11 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

I guess I don't remember the promise of cheap gas if we went in to Iraq by anyone. It was all about the WMD and the mass murder Saddam. I don't even think gas was that expensive in 2003, it was about $1.58/gallon with tax here in WI.

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Bren

5:53 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

The Iraq War was supposed to pay for itself through the sale of oil, I recall Dick Cheney said. Instead, approximately 40% of the millions of gallons of stolen oil was used to fund the insurgency. It's never been answered what happened to the other 60%. The public will probably never know.

I also recall hearing on NPR just after the fall of Baghdad that "Texas oilmen" were touring the oilfields. That surprised me. Later, when occupied Iraq became the first country in the Middle East to entertain 30-year oil drilling contracts, I understood why.

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Steve ®

7:43 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

We were in control of the country Bren. Of course we would send our best from Texas to see what can be done to secure and make sure the oil fields can still produce a product. The military is not in the drilling business. NPR is too stuck in one frame of mind to open up to the real world.

It's Iraq's oil.

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Bren

12:10 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Yes, but other experts were much closer, yes? Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc.?

And yes, it is Iraq's oil. Why indeed would the Bush administration have expected Iraq to pay for its own invasion?

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Michael Bietz

10:21 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012

StSw,

Economics 101 yes, but Oblameo has done nothing to keep gas prices down. He has not encouraged new refineries, he has denied the keystone pipeline, he has reduced the amount of drilling and oil production on Federal lands. All this before we talk about what he and his administration has done to eliminate oil production if the Gulf of Mexico.

So what is your point about Republican spending in the past? What about Oblameo's record on the deficit and Federal spending? care to address that? I doubt it. You libs are all bluster and no substance.

Sofia Reino

11:10 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Let's check the history of gas prices and crude oil: http://www.GasBuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx?city1=USA Average&city2=&city3=&crude=y&tme=60&units=us
From what I can see gas prices were also over $4 when President Bush was in power.

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Steve ®

11:17 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Look at the 4 year on that link. See where it takes a drastic drop? That day Bush gave a speech about opening more oil exploration and drilling on federally controlled land. Seems to me like the president can reduce the price by just talking about more production.

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Sofia Reino

11:41 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

So Steve what you are saying is that President Bush was a better marketer? I will certainly give him that. As there has been much more drilling and exploration now then when he was in office, yet prices are still high now. Interesting articles to read: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fact-check-us-drilling-drop-gas-price-15967717#.T3SOh45Kkfo and http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/us-oil-drilling-study_n_1369356.html

Unfortunately the oil industry is much too complicated for most to even try to understand. I do like reading quite a bit and from ALL sides and can tell you I still feel plainly stupid when it comes to the math on oil.

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Steve ®

11:58 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

He wasn't marketing oil, he was getting government out of the way of the free market and taking away the negative tone of oil.

All he did was talk about more drilling and the price plummeted. The increase of drilling and exploration today is happening on private or state controlled land, not federal. Obama has done nothing but put a "moratorium" on deep ocean drilling which Bush opened up. HE travels the country taking credit for this "increase" in drilling that he has no control over but in the same sentence tell us more drilling will not help, oil is evil and we should throw more money away at alternative energy now and not invest in the fuel we all live on currently. When you shut down production in one area it needs to be picked up on another to meet demand. This increase is not an increase just a shift.

When you set a tone of I hate your product and want the price to be high to force consumers on my alternative plan, it doesn't translate well to a commodity market.

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Sofia Reino

12:35 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

I am sorry Steve, I did not say he marketed oil, I said he was a good marketer as in how he spoke, which is very different. In terms of looking for alternatives I must say I am all for that as sooner than later and especially thinking of future generations we cannot simply just depend on something that will have an end. Much as any other raw material. Unfortunately we all know there is no one perfect solution and no-one will ever figure out what's best, but in my opinion, at least looking into other alternatives is a smart choice, not so much for us now of course but for future generations to come.

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St. Swithin

12:42 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Sofia,
Steve lives in a fantasy world. Bush's speech also happened to be right around when the stock market crashed in 2008. Which do you think caused gas prices to plummet?

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Randy1949

12:57 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

@St. Swithin -- I don't know about anyone else, but I sure had to cut back on my gasoline use, even though it was already at cut-to-the-bone levels.

@Steve -- Oh you betcha! Bush got government out of the way of the oil industry so that they could drill more and sell more abroad, and gasoline prices are still high right before an election. Who could have predicted that?

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Steve ®

3:03 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

No where close. Gas started to fall much before the jump down of the DOW mid Oct 2008. It wasn't a crash either like in 1929. In the end I know it's all Bush's fault in your head.

Randy. Election 2008 gas prices were very low. Nov is very far away to be speculating fuel prices will be high during the election. That is unless you know that it's all because of Obama and only removing him will remove the burden of high energy costs.

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Bren

5:58 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Oil is a commodity. The rumor of low or high supply gets the speculators rolling, just as layoff announcements at a publicly-traded company usually send stocks up, in this case because of short-term stability caused by cutting expenses.

Demand for oil is at an all-time high across the planet, so it's not a surprise that the price is up. We'll never see $2 gas again, I'm certain.

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Steve ®

2:41 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

We agree then. With higher demand comes the need for more supply, drill baby drill

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mau

5:23 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Difference is, when Bush was president, it was all his fault. Now the president has nothing to do with the price of gas. Funny how that goes.

Joe Boog

12:49 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

@ Steve, So all he has do do is talk drilling? This is the big Multi-national companies flexing their muscles to get wht they want! Drill Baby Drill. They are playing political games at the expense of all working class families who are paying the higher prices at the pump. It is Greed pure and simple, force the President and the American people to their way of thinking or we will keep raising the prices! It is political Black Mail! It is not supply and demand, it is keeping America dependent on Oil so thier pocket books can stay full. Greed the root of all evil! and in they multi-nationally own monopolies there is much evil!!

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Steve ®

1:20 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Oil companies don't set the price of their own product. Why not drill here, 100% of the money stays in the USA, provides good jobs for thousands, and last I checked 99.9% of our vehicles burn a petroleum product. Unless you like to outsource jobs and stuff.

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Bert

5:27 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Domestic oil production has increased every year under Obama, after decline the last four years under Bush. The number of drill rigs in the US has tripled under Obama. No amount of drilling on our part is going to impact oil prices. While you're right that oil is a globally traded commodity, the price of oil is effectively under the control of a cartel called OPEC, who control enough production to control the market. As uber-liberal Bill O'Reilly famously said, "any politician that says he can reduce gas prices, is full of BS".

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Steve ®

2:43 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

So cutting the supply will lower the global crude oil price?

Bert

1:02 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Yes, gas prices were under $2/gallon when Obama took office. The Dow Jones Industrial Average was below 7,000. 750,000 jobs were lost in the month of January, 2009. Back in June of 2008, gas prices were over $4/gal, just like they are now. What did Bush do between June of 2008 and January 2009 to cut gas prices in half? He presided over the largest financial collapse and global economic recession since the 1930's. (Gas prices fell by half during the Great Depression, too).
The argument about quantitative easing is even further beyond the bounds of rational thought than the usual GOP drivel. According to the assertion of the blogger, the US government can't find buyers for its debt? If this were true, then the Fed would need to pay more for it's debt notes via higher YIELDS. Just like a person with a crappy credit rating has to pay higher interest on a loan to buy a car. In fact, interest rates on 1-year T-bills are 0.2%! Essentially, our creditors are saying "Hold this $100 bill for me, and give me $100.20 one year from now."
The other nonsense argument made by the blogger is that QE has caused inflation, which is why gas prices are higher. Inflation is presently under 3% annually. For most of Obama's term, it has been even lower. At 3% per year, it would take 24 years for the price of gas to double due to inflation.
Clearly, the blogger hasn't the slightest concept of economics.

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Bert

1:38 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Oh good grief, I just noticed that this guy is running for Senate! The Republican war on intelligence continues unabated, I see.

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Randy1949

2:19 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Yes, and he seems to think this blather will inspire us to vote for him. I do believe he is mistaken -- about so many things.

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Jorge

5:55 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Nor do you. Not once did you mention QE 1 and QE2.

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Bren

6:01 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

His campaign should have vetted the political boards here before posting this screed. Too many fact checkers here for this to stand!

Johnny Blade

2:10 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Ok Go to the supermarket and buy some food .. oh thats right food isn't in the CPI like most everything people need to live .. If you don't think inflating the currency supply causes higher prices you need an economics lesson ... why can a silver dime buy a gallon of gas .. because the FED has devalued your currency .. welcome to the weimar republic ... the FED now holds 60% of the debt how does that work??????

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Bert

5:07 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

The hyperinflation that the Glenn Beck conspiracy crowd has been waiting for simply hasn't happened. Inflation is under 3%. The reason why energy products, and products that are highly dependent on energy products (i.e. food) are not in the CPI is because they exhibit a high degree of price volatility that has nothing to do with inflation. Clearly, if REAL inflation was over 36% (which is what it would need to be to have doubled the price of goods (gas) in two years' time), absolutely nobody would purchase a t-bill at a rate of 0.2% interest. If they believed that $100 worth of goods would cost $136 in one year, they would not even consider such a deal. If we were seeing skyrocketing interest rates on government debt, or any real increase in CPI, you could make a halfway plausible argument that monetary policy was causing the problem. However, we are seeing the opposite of those things.

But, if you really believe that hyperinflation is right around the corner, go ahead and hoard a bunch of gold. At current prices, it's a sucker's bet, but it's your money!

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CowDung

5:57 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

It's not the 'Glen Beck conspiracy crowd' that buys into the hyperinflation theory--Bernanke has been very concerned with containing inflation...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/29/us-usa-fed-idUSBRE82S1CL20120329

"With inflation hovering near the Fed's 2.0 percent target, the focus for U.S. policymakers has been kick-starting economic growth and lowering the 8.3 percent unemployment rate. Still, there are lingering concerns that the central bank's unprecedented actions have sown the seeds for a possible big jump in prices."

Taoist Crocodile

4:16 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

A bigger crap argument I have never read. One shot is all it takes to sink this garbage barge, and here it is:

WE EXPORT GASOLINE! This means that it's more profitable to sell it in other countries than to sell it here. If you want to lower the price, and increase the supply, just restrict exports. Lowering the price of gas without limiting exports would INCREASE exports, cutting the supply and raising prices yet again.

For an aspiring politician, Hovde's grasp of the principles of economics is appallingly weak.

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Bert

5:30 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

For more expert analysis on the impact a President has on gas prices, let's turn to our trusted, unbiased friends at FauxNews:

http://youtu.be/UzEnKdBAb_o

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Johnny Blade

7:05 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Why is the price of gold going higher?? Why can't the government live within its means ... you know we can't pay this debt back right?? what do you think will happen, keep borrowing until???

We have to export something right .. we need to sell something to someone to make money .. do you know how economics work

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Johnny Blade

7:11 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Nobody is purchasing tbills, the FED is to a tune of 60%, thats called QE and the markets love it .. how do you buy your own debt?? ..If the Petro Dollar wasn't the reserve currency we be in Zimbabwe ... Soon the price of gold and the DOW will be the same 1oz of gold will be 13K ... or if deflation 1oz of gold = DOW = $100

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Michael Fretchel

8:18 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

First of all, all of us my self included are addicted to cheap oil like a crack addicts, we have been living off the almost Harry Potter like magic that cheap oil can bring ,and have no idea how to live a sustainable life without it ,yet only a short time ago people did just that and perhaps had a bit of a harder life but they also were looking pretty fit and knew how to fend for themselves without having to buy food that should have the same health warnings on their labels as cigarettes do.
I wonder if you have heard of something called Peak Oil ,cause that's were oil is right now! it is plain old harder to get at in a cheap and economical way . OH!!! wait I am sure that some of you are already saying to your selves this liberal Son of a #@%%%% is wrong By ,Exon and good old Standard oil are finding oil all over the "NOW " Ice less Antarctic (Global warming cause and effect by the way) but here we are OIL is going to go up whether there is a Republican in office or a Democrat, get over it this is the way it is. The science is there so stop !! watching Fox news for your World view www.theoildrum.com/. check out this site it may wake you up to a real world view point .

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J. B. Schmidt

8:03 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Michael
Isn't 'Peak Oil' a self fulfilling prophecy? A liberal idea desired to cast doubt on an energy system that liberals hate. Then over the course of the prediction liberals do everything possible to restrict any growth in the oil industry. At the end of the original prediction is it really a surprise that liberal are suddenly claiming the prediction is correct. It would be like me predicting that no one will ever win powerball again, then going out and making it impossible for retailers to sell powerball tickets. On Saturday night, when no one wins, I can claim my prediction to be a complete success.

Lets pretend we didn't waste billions on failed alternative energy, but instead used that money to fund projects around making oil able to be burned cleanly. I wonder where we would be? However, that doesn't fit you political agenda of making oil a demon. Instead, liberals would rather return us to a time before oil until we can pull an alternative energy out of butts that can actually sustain the country.

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Michael Bietz

10:29 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012

So we should stop trying to lower gas and oil prices?? Let's set up wind mills and plug our cars in, start raising horses and mules and riding our bikes 25 miles to work? That is the Oblameo plan.

J. B. Schmidt

7:54 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

In 2008 Obama said in a campaign interview that a steady rise in gas prices was good for the country.

Recently the administration enacted pollution controls on coal fired power plants that will jack up energy cost and cause no further coal plants to be built. Again something he said during his 2008 campaign.

He has opened public land for drilling but his administration has not granted a single permit to drill.

Oil will be allowed to sky rocket in his second term. He wants high oil prices because they benefit his political environmental agenda.

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Richard

8:52 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

JB, thank you for a breath of fresh and intelligent air amongst the ignorance than seems to prevail from the left on these blogs. For example, peak oil is and has been a moving target as modern drilling techniques have pushed it further and further into the future. Suggest that all you libs get some truth serum into your veins by opening up your minds to the revealing and informative features provided by McCuistion Television at www.frtv.org. Check out the author Dan Yergin's book the Quest, by the way he's a true expert on energy not the twisted faux type from the left. And oh yes, Hovde is on the right track about inflation and QE 1, 2 and coming 3. Inflation at 2-3%, who are you kidding have you been to the food markets recently or perhaps bought anything. If you on the left believe what is coming out to this administration re inflation, I definitely have a broken down bridge to sell you.

DontTreadOnMeEither

8:39 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

"...in his second term."

Sounds like J.B. Schmidt is finally realizing that the (R) side of the aisle doesn't stand a chance in November.

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J. B. Schmidt

8:45 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

@DontTreadOnMeEither
Obama victory, Ha! I was trying to point out to you brainwashed liberals that an Obama second term is not a pro-United States term.

Walker

9:14 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

"With a long track record of support for handouts to special interests, corporate welfare that stacks the deck against small businesses and loopholes in the tax code that place an undue burden on the middle class, . . . ." WOW! Sounds like he's talking about Walker.

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Mike

9:19 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

Quite frankly our govt. benefits from the taxes on oil. They of course are not interested in losing this mainstream tax money period. Our govt also does not control the costs of oil. The big oil companies do. The president of the US or any other president is powerless against OPEC. The GOP says "just drill baby, everywhere and anywhere" pollute all you want we want the oil. Of course this happens while they get their pockets stuffed full of cash from big oil. This will solve nothing. Big oil will sell this to China or someplece else and our prices will remain the same while we clean up another disaster like the gulf. Who the heck wants this again? If you think for one minute that drilling everywhere will reduce oil, you are mistaken. Big oil companies just fooled you again, they are the culprits here. We need to find alternatives to reduce our demand and have competition against oil companies such as nuclear power or something else to drive prices down. Under Bush it was high, under Obama it is high, they do not control the costs OPEC does. This blogger (Hovde) is way off base with reality. Quite blaming Obama or Bush and blame OPEC and the big oil companies whose greed is why we are paying higher prices.

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J. B. Schmidt

9:38 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Mike
Since our economy and the worlds economy is currently run by petroleum products, you are suggesting we should allow the rise in oil prices to the detrement of our own economy. Or do you have an alternative that can replace oil?

This has nothing to do with the environment. If it did you libs would be outraged by the birds killed by wind farms or the pollution associated with the making of solar panels. This is about the power to control the country. If libs can control the fuel, they can control what we drive, where we drive and how often we drive. As long as American's can purchase relatively cheap gasoline, libs can't control how we move.

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Richard

10:15 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

Right on again, JB, good job.

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Bob McBride

10:57 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

Liberals don't believe in the law of unintended consequences. You can't convince them that everything that's screwed up with the way we do things now isn't the result of corporate greed, or, even if it were, that whatever new idea they have won't be impervious to its effects. All we have to do to make things better is run half-cocked toward some Utopian alternative (insert solution for vexing problem here) and embrace it whole-heartedly.

Menoparent

1:45 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

What about the Republicans voting down the bill yesterday to end oil subsidies to these gazzillionaire companies. They all said under Bush that they wanted to end it, that they didn't need the extra money. Now when Obama is in, they want to do the opposite of what he and the Democrats want???

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J. B. Schmidt

1:57 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@menoparent
I agree with ending subsidies, FOR ALL. We can't end it only for oil, what about the billions wasted on failed alternative energy companies. I wonder if you happened to notice that your Democratic friends also voted to keep the subsidies, or does that fit your, evil republican, narrative?

Also, at a time when gas prices are high, do you actually think it is wise to take money away? While at the same time punishing them with nearly 40% corporate tax rate.

Menoparent

1:57 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

I believe feeding our dependence on oil "drill baby drill" is just going to further our demand on something that will eventually become harder to get. We need more hybrid and flex fuel vehicles. We have a flex fuel and E85 is $1 cheaper than regular gas and it gets the same gas mileage as regular gas. If more people bought these cars, the prices would eventually go down and more gas stations would carry E85.

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J. B. Schmidt

2:10 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Menoparent
Sure E85 is cheaper, but your vehicle get less gas mileage on ethanol then gasoline. Also, as we take more corn out of the food industry, those prices will go up. Lastly, ethanol takes a huge amount of gas to produce the actual corn. The energy balance for ethanol is 1.3 to 1; which mean for every unit of energy that goes into production only 1.3 is retrieved. It is 5 to 1 for petroleum. You are trying to trade bad for what you assume is bad, why? Because you have bought this theory that oil companies suck?

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Steve ®

2:45 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

You get about 1/2 the millage on E85. Try burning it and towing a trailer on an F150.
It is cheaper only becuase of the huge subsidies involved, it can not survive on it's own and more and more local gas stations are pulling it from their tanks as no one is purchasing it.

As JB states we can not burn our food supply.

Menoparent

2:41 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

JB, I said we get the same gas mileage with E85 or regular, so it is cheaper.

And, I have not been sold a theory about oil companies. So what if the price of corn goes up, great for America profiting vs. foreign countries. Just look at what Brazil has done to their cars. And they are no longer so dependent on oil.

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J. B. Schmidt

2:57 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Menoparent
American Profiting, what about the inability to by beef or pork, because they eat the corn. I would assume you would be against Big Corn.

Are you talking about the same Brazil drilling for oil in off their cost, with the support of Obama? Yep, we should be just like them.

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CowDung

3:22 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Menoparent:

Funny how you seem to be the only person that gets the same mileage with E85. Even the government says you should get reduced mileage with E85 and have higher fuel costs...

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/byfuel/ffv2000.shtml

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Gregory Kluck

4:57 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Menoparent...I drive a 2010 HHR Panel truck that gets about 32 mpg on average. I tried E85 and got about 26 mpg. Nope, my truck did not get the same mileage and it performed like a dog. Lack of power climbing hills or carrying me equipment. Some of my friends that have turbo equipped cars like it because it's great at the drag strip, but not on the highway. They have computer tunable timing in their cars

Taoist Crocodile

2:55 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Does anyone remember the "The Stand" TV miniseries?

I was looking at the author's profile pic, and wondering, "where have I seen this guy before?" Oh yeah...

http://www.screened.com/jamey-sheridan/14-447967/all-images/132-447968/pdvd_036_thumb/131-265984/

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Randy1949

3:14 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

*snerk* Eric Hovde = Randall Flagg?

Sorry, Jamie Sheridan and Eric Hovde aren't quite awful enough to play the 'Walkin' Dude'. Although Evil does tend to hide behind a fair face.

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Taoist Crocodile

3:35 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

I'm not saying that Eric Hovde is the Antichrist, and I'm certainly not suggesting that he's going to wipe out 97% of humanity with a mutated flu virus and then summon us to Las Vegas in our dreams.

I'm just saying that it's -interesting- how right-wing talk radio refuses to talk about Eric Hovde's resemblance to Randall Flagg. I also think it's -interesting- that Eric Hovde has never produced his birth certificate. And why has Eric Hovde's campaign been -silent- in the face of rumors that he can turn into a crow? What are they hiding?

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Randy1949

3:49 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

In that case, I'm not saying I plan to head for Boulder and the nice old black lady. M O O N -- that spells voting for Tammy Baldwin!

Menoparent

3:05 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

give me a break, we have plenty of corn and ways of growing it! If gas stations are taking E85 out, then why did the station on Pilgrim and Lisbon recently add it? And Brazil uses E85 in most of their cars.

JB, you said it, not me "Evil Republicans"

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J. B. Schmidt

3:10 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Menoparent
I never said they were removing it.

The E85 in Brazil is made from sugar cane and their growing season is slightly different from ours. I enjoy how have nothing to add to the fact that Brazil is drilling for oil.

The price of pork has gone up 85% since the decision to use corn as fuel, but who cares we are all profiting.

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Gregory Kluck

5:12 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Actually, the Brazillians use about 25% Ethanol in their fuel. That also is tied to the harvest of sugar can so the blend can change several times a year. Until the release of the 2009 VW Polo, all flex fueled vehicles in Brazil had to have an auxiliary start up tank to allow the engine to reach operating temperatures. This was also a problem when I modified my 1969 Buick 350 V8 powered car to run on 20% alcohol in the 70s. I was the first to sell "gasohol", as it was called back then, in California. We sold an E10 mix like today. With sensors and fuel injection, computer timing control, a car can run decent on E10. Not so back then.

Menoparent

3:11 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Plus, Plus, if you increase the production of corn, you could probably get rid of the farm subsidies to farmers that let their land stay idle.

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CowDung

3:18 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

What about the ethanol subsidies?

Menoparent

3:34 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

That's right Brazil is profiting as we would too. The point is to subsidize till enough people are buying it and then they can sustain on their own. Which is what should have happened with the oil subsidy. Brazil may be drilling, so are we in the Gulf, what's your point? Beef went up 85%?? What were they paying for it before and now? We love T-Bone and always buy it when it's on sale. There is always a pro and con to every decision. What has to be weighed is the lesser of the evils. And, yes, our gas mileage is the same believe it or not, it's a newer full-size truck.

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CowDung

3:42 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

I'm not buying your 'same mileage with E85' claim. Not a single vehicle on the list gets close to the same mileage on E85 as it does on gas.

2011 Model year:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/byfuel/FFV2011.shtml

2012 Model year:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/byfuel/FFV2012.shtml

Johnny Blade

3:54 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

You can't get the same mileage, as ethanols power density is much less than gasoline so you have to burn more volume of ethanol to achieve same horsepower as gasoline

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Marty

9:24 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

How about all the above? Isn't it time we had a domestic agenda that could multi-task?

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Jay

6:12 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Its the free market at work with no regulations....if Republicans win say hello to prices like this in all kinds of industries, they will take away the restrictions and these Rich leaders of these wonderful companies will squeeze all us middle class folks for everything we have till this countries dies.

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Keith Schmitz

9:41 am on Monday, April 2, 2012

Looks like Hovde is the same know nothing cheap shot artist as Rojo.

Surprise us Eric. See if you have the ability to come up with something other than a FOXfed talking point.

BTW -- here's the video of Dr. Zeke Emmanuel mopping the floor this morning with Rojo on Morning Joe http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe/#46924479

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John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt

11:12 pm on Tuesday, April 3, 2012

Hovde, you are clueless. You obviously know next to nothing about efficient markets.

Gas costs 25 cents a gallon less when you get out of southeast Wisconsin. You need to get out more.

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Justme

8:02 am on Wednesday, April 4, 2012

Obama WANTS us to pay more for energy. My last count of solar and wind turbine companies that we're highly subsidized that have already gone bankrupt is 14. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

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Samantha Cook

7:44 am on Thursday, April 5, 2012

I agree that we need to do something about gas price being so high, because this is just crazy that we are paying 4 bucks a gallon. On the hand I think we should find more energy effcient way to get around, because gas and oil will not last forever one day it will be gone. So we need to start to look into new types of energy.

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James Gottemoller

9:37 pm on Thursday, April 5, 2012

I said this in several different venues. Ramp up production in the Balkans (North and South Dakota). Get this Keystone pipeline built and get it in use. There are estimates of 200-250 yrs worth of oil in this area. If there is truth to this, why we messing with Iran, Iraq, and the others. Back to economics: Currently 6 companies control approximately 53% of refinery capacity. This is monopolistic. No refinery built in the US since 1976. When oil production is fine and no production threats, we still have to deal with all the boutique gases being created thru so few refineries. Economics: Low supplies and increased demand. Gee, this increase prices. It is economics and not the president controls this. So do you still want to blame the president? The Bush administration saw the highest price ever for a barrel of oil ($145). Gas prices and oil prices sure were done in 2008 just as the election was coming. But there were no jobs, the financial system was on the verge of collapse, the republicans for years allowed housing to go on its destructive course. Oh, maybe they didnt have anything to do with housing, no different than Obama having something to do with gas prices.

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